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03-11-2025 | 09:00 AM

#101

jerryleber

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

Cut all unconstitutional spending.

And to keep the answer shorter, what spending is constitutional? How many current elected officials agree with you?

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

Keep income revenues where they are at until the debt is paid off, then lower income to match spending.

What income revenues are constitutional?

03-11-2025 | 09:31 AM

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Rolling stikes like the French rail workers( happened to me 3 times over the years while on vacation in France). I didn't raise my fist in solidarity, was I supposed to?

No one is asking you to join picket lines while vacationing with your family. Not publicly celebrating government strong arm tactics against another union feels like a pretty low bar to clear.

03-11-2025 | 09:58 AM

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It's real simple. Cut all unconstitutional spending. Keep income revenues where they are at until the debt is paid off, then lower income to match spending. This isn't difficult.

R’s control all branches of government. If it’s that easy why aren’t they doing it yesterday instead of pitching a budget proposal that adds trillions more to the debt? Since I watched the circus last time it was in town I’ll tip you off: Don the Con is about to leave you high & dry on the budget. But not to worry- lest the true believers be disappointed he’ll unveil a perfectly satisfying excuse of why it’s all the fault of Nancy Pelosi & the radical left Marxists.

03-11-2025 | 10:51 AM

#104

ugleeual

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Originally Posted by hummingbear

“control” is a little bit misleading… it’s true the Rs have a majority but you can’t pass a bill into law unless you have enough votes (60) to break a filibuster in the Senate. Personally I’d like to see the filibuster go away (simple majority) as the Ds stated last year (before the elections and when they though they’d have the majority) they would abolish the filibuster and push through the socialist agenda they had in tap. Time for FAFO to be implemented by the Rs if the Ds keep voting block NO on everything…

03-11-2025 | 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

What income revenues are constitutional?

Everything outlined in the 16th Amendment, as upheld by Brushaber in the Supreme Court.

03-11-2025 | 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith

Everything outlined in the 16th Amendment, as upheld by Brushaber in the Supreme Court.

I agree, but I was looking for our resident Austrian School flat earther to tell us why the 16th Amendment and Brushaber are unconstitutional.

03-11-2025 | 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

And to keep the answer shorter, what spending is constitutional? How many current elected officials agree with you?
What income revenues are constitutional?

Any politician who starts meddling with those “unconstitutional revenues” (is that Heritage Foundation speak?) might as bend over and lick the third rail. Come to think of it…..

03-11-2025 | 03:07 PM

#108

SonicFlyer

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

And to keep the answer shorter, what spending is constitutional?

Everything listed in Article I Sec 8

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

How many current elected officials agree with you?

1, maybe 2 or 3

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

What income revenues are constitutional?

Income tax (maybe) and tariffs. Honestly I'm not sure about a sales tax.

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

tell us why the 16th Amendment and Brushaber are unconstitutional.

There is a theory out there that the 16th Amendment wasn't lawfully ratified. I'm 85% sold on it, but not 100%.

03-11-2025 | 03:08 PM

#109

SonicFlyer

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Originally Posted by hummingbear

If it’s that easy why aren’t they doing it yesterday instead of pitching a budget proposal that adds trillions more to the debt?

Because they get reelected by doleing out the pork. And the Federal Reserve just prints money out of thin air, so no one really cares because any pain that results is distributed/diffused among the entire population.

03-12-2025 | 05:16 AM

#110

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Hornetdrvr

Yep, and the one before him spent 500+ days of his presidency on vacation.

At least they were cheap vacations. Trumps golfing trips are very expensive giving how much he bills the government for his Mar Lago stays. Who was it who said Obama should not be golfing twice a month when he was President?