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MasterOfPuppets 05-15-2025 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE (Post 3912648)
That’s your opinion bucko . I know of several senior guys that still plan on wearing their leather come this fall . I really doubt if anyone will give 2 sh!tz .
They have bigger fish to fry .

personally I don’t care but the company will find a hill to die on and they will win when push comes to shove.

that hill they will die on is leather jackets and they don’t care how senior or self important you are.

the company HATES the leather jackets and wants them gone. Good luck proving your point.

Fedy 05-15-2025 03:33 PM

I just have to wonder what the uniform committee was thinking. Does a 3-in-1 windbreaker look more professional than an iconic pilot's leather jacket?

ThumbsUp 05-15-2025 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Fedy (Post 3912672)
I just have to wonder what the uniform committee was thinking. Does a 3-in-1 windbreaker look more professional than an iconic pilot's leather jacket?

The company dictates the uniform. But yes to question 2, in their view.

Fedy 05-15-2025 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3912673)
The company dictates the uniform. But yes to question 2, in their view.

21-C "Any change or alteration to the pilot uniform must be with the concurrence of the Uniform Committee"

ThumbsUp 05-15-2025 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Fedy (Post 3912676)
21-C "Any change or alteration to the pilot uniform must be with the concurrence of the Uniform Committee"

Thanks for quoting the contract. The company still decides the uniform. While we have input through the uniform committee, it’s pretty limited. Just talk to someone on the committee. Since very few people care about the leather jacket relative to the 18k pilots, it wasn’t worth any capital.

Fedy 05-15-2025 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3912686)
Thanks for quoting the contract. The company still decides the uniform. While we have input through the uniform committee, it’s pretty limited. Just talk to someone on the committee. Since very few people care about the leather jacket relative to the 18k pilots, it wasn’t worth any capital.

If the uniform committee is abdicating their contractual right to sign off on uniform changes, that's a separate problem.

hercretired 05-15-2025 04:59 PM

waiting for Ebay to populate with a bunch of UAL leather jackets

ThumbsUp 05-15-2025 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Fedy (Post 3912687)
If the uniform committee is abdicating their contractual right to sign off on uniform changes, that's a separate problem.

I don’t think you understand how this works. We still wear hats because the company wants hats. Most people hate hats. The company hates leather jackets. Most pilots don’t care about leather jackets. We don’t have leather jackets. Back to turning the wrench and collecting checks.

11atsomto 05-15-2025 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3912651)
The majority of the flying public DOES care what we look like.

They really don’t though that’s the thing. I accept YOU do and you are most welcome to look as sharp as you wish. When someone looks extremely sharp however, I start wondering if they have spent too much time in front of the mirror and NOT enough time in front of their EFB. I’ve said this before: there is a sizable chunk of the East Asian and Western European public that does place a lot of emphasis airline crew uniform and appearance standards, however this is still mostly focused on inflight. This makes sense right they spend far more time visible and interacting with the passengers than we do…..it’s mostly female, and while subjective are generally thought to be more attractive and younger. Think about it, you can easily pick out a Singapore Airlines Flight Attendant by their sarong, or the Cathay Red skirts…..but what color are their pilots blazers?………..you aren’t really sure are you…….thats kind of my point.

Clearedtocross 05-15-2025 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3912704)
They really don’t though that’s the thing. I accept YOU do and you are most welcome to look as sharp as you wish. When someone looks extremely sharp however, I start wondering if they have spent too much time in front of the mirror and NOT enough time in front of their EFB. I’ve said this before: there is a sizable chunk of the East Asian and Western European public that does place a lot of emphasis airline crew uniform and appearance standards, however this is still mostly focused on inflight. This makes sense right they spend far more time visible and interacting with the passengers than we do…..it’s mostly female, and while subjective are generally thought to be more attractive and younger. Think about it, you can easily pick out a Singapore Airlines Flight Attendant by their sarong, or the Cathay Red skirts…..but what color are their pilots blazers?………..you aren’t really sure are you…….thats kind of my point.

So what you are saying is that even though EVERY airline in the world has uniform standards and spends a good deal of $ to maintain them, YOU happen to know that the public doesn’t care at all about such matters, and it’s merely my opinion that they do. You know better than all those dumb airlines😂


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