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11atsomto 05-15-2025 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3912707)
So what you are saying is that even though EVERY airline in the world has uniform standards and spends a good deal of $ to maintain them, YOU happen to know that the public doesn’t care at all about such matters, and it’s merely my opinion that they do. You know better than all those dumb airlines😂

Allen Iversen voice “We talkin about flight attendants”

YOU are in the industry and I’m most confident you would fail at Flight Deck Airline Uniform identification. Your traveling Pharma sales rep would do equally as poor

You would and likely I would ace the same exam if it were for cabin crew.

Thems the facts

Peoplemvr 05-15-2025 06:20 PM

I could tell what my copilot’s background is even before I met him or her.
Military. And they sure look snappy!
They take pride in their appearance.

ugleeual 05-15-2025 06:42 PM

union wont be able to defend a pilot who refuses to comply with the “no leather jacket” uniform policy… they’ll make a few examples at the bigger domiciles and the other small group of pilots still wearing them will fall in line. I rarely see them on the line… this is a nothing burger and the union didn’t fight to keep them apparently.

Clearedtocross 05-15-2025 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3912709)
Allen Iversen voice “We talkin about flight attendants”

YOU are in the industry and I’m most confident you would fail at Flight Deck Airline Uniform identification. Your traveling Pharma sales rep would do equally as poor

You would and likely I would ace the same exam if it were for cabin crew.

Thems the facts

I’m sorry I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. There are no facts listed above, just your opinions. Good day!

Random Task 05-15-2025 08:00 PM

The leather jackets are hideous. Good riddance.

Swakid8 05-16-2025 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 3912730)
The leather jackets are hideous. Good riddance.

Yup, I can care less about them…

JurgenKlopp 05-16-2025 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Fedy (Post 3912672)
I just have to wonder what the uniform committee was thinking. Does a 3-in-1 windbreaker look more professional than an iconic pilot's leather jacket?

Which coat feels right while walking to the Irish pub on a long layover? Cool pseudo 8th Air Force look bro…

Furloughedboi 05-16-2025 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3912644)
Yeah, grow a beard on your days off. For a good many, this will be just another opportunity to look sloppy in uniform. We’re trying to run a business here.

Being against facial hair is the most boomer or military thing someone can say. If people want to shave their face, no one is stopping them. Noting objectively wrong with facial hair that is groomed, just like hair on the rest of the head

11atsomto 05-16-2025 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 3912707)
YOU happen to know that the public doesn’t care at all about such matters.

If you talk to a member ot the public who mentions anything about their pilot’s appearance it will only be one of two things:

1.They will mention if said Pilot is obese.

2. They will mention if their pilot was anything BUT a white male.

There will be no mention of short or long sleeve, hat or no hat, blazer or no blazer, sweater or all weather jacket. They notice the epaulets but they don’t realize that it correlates to any type of hierarchy.

They just Don’t ok……that’s fine that you take pride in your appearance, and I can’t say that I don’t, nor do encourage I anyone to not adhere to uniform policy.


I’m curious about what you think about NATCA? Have you ever done a tour of a tower or a TRACON?

Did you feel less safe once you saw everyone in there dressed like they were going to Costco?

Spoilers Deploy 05-16-2025 03:31 AM

International trips require the coat and hat in summer. Its hot AF wearing that…

Delta doesn’t…. After a 8+ hour flight… the Deltoids look like crap.. the “I slept in my clothes and haven’t been home in 24h” look.

United pilots look professional. So there is that.

The other reason is …. If a crew gets sideways with a foreign government, looking professional is highly advantageous.

This has been happening for 100 years, there is nothing new here.



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