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Old 09-04-2025 | 05:59 PM
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Old 09-04-2025 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
the 777 doesn’t have enough time left to make a base in HNL worthwhile.
Uhhh....I don't know what airline you work for, but the 777's aren't going anywhere any time soon. Time left?? You know the -300's are only a few years old?? This is all if we don't order more 777's.
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Old 09-05-2025 | 06:29 AM
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Uhhh....I don't know what airline you work for, but the 777's aren't going anywhere any time soon. Time left?? You know the -300's are only a few years old?? This is all if we don't order more 777's.
yeah but other than SFO-HNL-GUM the -300 doesn’t fly to HNL.

So I’m not sure what airline you work for but 65 of our 777-200s will turn 30 in the next 6 years…..
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Old 09-05-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
yeah but other than SFO-HNL-GUM the -300 doesn’t fly to HNL.

So I’m not sure what airline you work for but 65 of our 777-200s will turn 30 in the next 6 years…..
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Old 09-05-2025 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
So I’m not sure what airline you work for but 65 of our 777-200s will turn 30 in the next 6 years…..
Agreed. But that doesn't mean we have replacements for them.

What I'd like to know is what happened to the JAL and Korean 777-200's that were grounded as a result of the P&W engines. Lots of potential spares there.
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Old 09-05-2025 | 08:59 AM
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🤦. LEAF! is what I meant
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Old 09-05-2025 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Agreed. But that doesn't mean we have replacements for them.

What I'd like to know is what happened to the JAL and Korean 777-200's that were grounded as a result of the P&W engines. Lots of potential spares there.
We could use their engines for sure. It has been 15 years since a PW 4000 series engine has been produced from PW. We have done an excellent job overhauling our own during this time but support from PW in the last 18 months has been lacking thus the temporary parking of up to four jets over the past several months. Hopefully, with the seasonal schedule reduction, we can catch up engine overhauls as the B models get some down time and A models go into North/South domestic rotations. I could see a future where most of the A models get parked and twenty or so more B models get modified to domestic configuration and a slight de-rate on the 4090 to say, a 4084 thus reducing EGT for takeoff but still allowing for domestic/Hawaii ops with high density seating (and a better MGLW!). This could get us through another decade of widebody domestic ops until a new solution presents itself. The remaining B models could operate Europe with de-rated 4090s and the Pacific could be the domain of the C models, -322s and 787s of various models. Obviously there are a few hurdles Boeing and PW need to get through in order for this scenario to be possible (think EA design change implementation of March 2028 deadline)
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Old 09-05-2025 | 03:19 PM
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Old 09-05-2025 | 05:56 PM
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We could use their engines for sure. It has been 15 years since a PW 4000 series engine has been produced from PW. We have done an excellent job overhauling our own during this time but support from PW in the last 18 months has been lacking thus the temporary parking of up to four jets over the past several months. Hopefully, with the seasonal schedule reduction, we can catch up engine overhauls as the B models get some down time and A models go into North/South domestic rotations. I could see a future where most of the A models get parked and twenty or so more B models get modified to domestic configuration and a slight de-rate on the 4090 to say, a 4084 thus reducing EGT for takeoff but still allowing for domestic/Hawaii ops with high density seating (and a better MGLW!). This could get us through another decade of widebody domestic ops until a new solution presents itself. The remaining B models could operate Europe with de-rated 4090s and the Pacific could be the domain of the C models, -322s and 787s of various models. Obviously there are a few hurdles Boeing and PW need to get through in order for this scenario to be possible (think EA design change implementation of March 2028 deadline)
Not a UAL guy but what's A/B/C in this context, 772, 772er, 773?
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Old 09-05-2025 | 07:37 PM
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787 MCO within two years
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