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Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 4022568)

I can’t see any of those getting parked, or even the newer LCAL 757’s. Still a lot of life left in those birds (especially the LCAL 777’s), and a paid off airplane can be wildly profitable even if its hourly operating cost is higher than the latest and greatest. Just look at Delta, it’s almost their identity . Look how long they held on to their MD-80’s.

Delta owns a refinery, which during cheap oil times may or may not be worth the headache, but during expensive oil times it significantly insulates them from the jet-fuel crack spread which allows them to operate fuel guzzlers at a much better margin than UA. However in this fiasco it is within the realm of possibility that oil is going to go so high that demand destruction obliterates refining margins for DL.

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Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 4022586)

That assumed something like $60/barrel oil and a growing economy.

Give it about a month but I think you’ll see some more concrete capacity reductions based on the price of jet fuel and the potential shortage of it. I would bet United starts parking the 757-200 and 767-300 sooner than planned.

Depends on whether they want to keep pushing for market share or not.... The 752/763 might get moved back to SFO just to keep ASMs steady there with the reduced arrival capability.

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Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 4022586)

The advantage with a paid off airplane is you can park and store them without incurring any real costs but savings in fuel and insurance.

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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 4022605)

Junior 756 CA has just under 4 years on property

latest snap shot shows 5 years on property

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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 4022787)

latest snap shot shows 5 years on property

looks like four to me

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Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 4022951)

looks like four to me

one month UNDER four years

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Originally Posted by maxru (Post 4022977)

one month UNDER four years

TLDR: they’re junior

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Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 4022951)

looks like four to me

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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 4022787)

latest snap shot shows 5 years on property

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Originally Posted by maxru (Post 4022977)

one month UNDER four years

We start at First Year pay and during this period we are often labeled “a first year FO” but that’s when we’ve been here for zero years.
I’m not sure what’s the correct nomenclature but the bigger picture of the relative juniority is most surprising to me.

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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 4022787)

latest snap shot shows 5 years on property

How is 756CA going more junior than Guppy CA? Genuine question...

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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 4023019)

How is 756CA going more junior than Guppy CA? Genuine question...

Better seniority progression would be my guess. The g lines between the two in EWR are nearly a decade apart. That 10 year seniority difference doesn’t get you much in terms of the quality of a line either.

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Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 4023019)

How is 756CA going more junior than Guppy CA? Genuine question...

learning 5 different airplanes for a measly boost in pay. Stagnant AF. Crappy flying when you’re junior, which you will be for much longer than 737. I certainly have considered it, but it’s not worth the jump.