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Old 04-16-2026 | 08:24 AM
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Agreed, UA/AA would be an Aeroflot fantasy scenario giving the combined carrier incredible pricing power. Even if the US approved it there would be enormous ripple effects globally (TATL JVs, alliances, etc) and I am not sure Europe would be in the mood to play along.

UA/JB would give the next best bang for the buck, allowing UA to increase pricing power in the BOS/JFK areas in particular and further pushing AA into irrelevance.

AA/AS would be a smart combo, and the AS mgmt team could likely turn things around better than Isom has.
No not really. United would be “taking one for the team” essentially. UA/JB would have to give up slots in BOS/JFK/EWR to AA and DL (organic growth is significantly cheaper). The big 3 together would gain pricing power.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
No not really. United would be “taking one for the team” essentially. UA/JB would have to give up slots in BOS/JFK/EWR to AA and DL (organic growth is significantly cheaper). The big 3 together would gain pricing power.
BOS does not have slots, no divestitures there. UA isn't giving up anything in EWR. Divest 80 slots in JFK still leaves UA with ~100 which is plenty. DL wouldn't be allowed to bid considering they are the largest carrier, AA can't even use the JFK slots they already have so I can't see them buying more. That leaves AS, WN, F9, NK, MX types which might be interested.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
BOS does not have slots, no divestitures there. UA isn't giving up anything in EWR. Divest 80 slots in JFK still leaves UA with ~100 which is plenty. DL wouldn't be allowed to bid considering they are the largest carrier, AA can't even use the JFK slots they already have so I can't see them buying more. That leaves AS, WN, F9, NK, MX types which might be interested.
LOL no chance, you’re just making sh*t up. Just apply to United. Wishful thinking is a terrible strategy.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Agree its only downside from a pilot perspective considering the profit sharing hit as well as the seniority integration, even with a fence, especially for anyone hired after 2020. Fortunately in 5 years I'll be gone and I won't have to deal with it, but anyone with less than 6 years longevity (9,000 pilots) would have a rude awakening.
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plus the fact that quite a few B6ers went to UA in the last 9 years, who would now be junior to folks that they were senior to at B6.
so I am one of those folks......but that was my decision and mine (plus family) alone nobody forced me to do that. So I really should be held accountable for that decision however detrimental to my career progression it may be.
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
LOL no chance, you’re just making sh*t up. Just apply to United. Wishful thinking is a terrible strategy.
My apologies, have a great day.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
so I am one of those folks......but that was my decision and mine (plus family) alone nobody forced me to do that. So I really should be held accountable for that decision however detrimental to my career progression it may be.
One of the more honest posts I’ve read in a long time.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
LOL no chance, you’re just making sh*t up. Just apply to United. Wishful thinking is a terrible strategy.
They aren’t wrong… BOS isn’t slot restricted…

EWR, United would be required to give up B6 gates and takeoff/landing times….

JFK - United would offer up JFK slots to divestitures to satisfy the DOJ and keep a good handful of them…. Delta wouldn’t be able to bid for them. AA might but doubt it, Breeze, F9, Southwest would all be able to advocate for those slots freely.

But we will see as there is precedent that EWR and LGA/JFK were considered as separate markets in previous cases.

If there was to be a UA/B6 merger, this is the likely scenario that will play out.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
so I am one of those folks......but that was my decision and mine (plus family) alone nobody forced me to do that. So I really should be held accountable for that decision however detrimental to my career progression it may be.
I would hazard that for most B6 who went to UA lately, it was still a good decision, even if you end up junior to yourself. Have play the hand you're dealt, you don't get to look at all the cards in the deck.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
https://podcastaddict.com/the-air-sh...sode/221760517

Good perspectives covering the UA merger landscape
Stop listening cause one of the hosts and former management shrill pumps for Single Pilots Ops any chance he can get.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
They aren’t wrong… BOS isn’t slot restricted…

EWR, United would be required to give up B6 gates and takeoff/landing times….

JFK - United would offer up JFK slots to divestitures to satisfy the DOJ and keep a good handful of them…. Delta wouldn’t be able to bid for them. AA might but doubt it, Breeze, F9, Southwest would all be able to advocate for those slots freely.

But we will see as there is precedent that EWR and LGA/JFK were considered as separate markets in previous cases.

If there was to be a UA/B6 merger, this is the likely scenario that will play out.
United would also have to take a bunch of bad just to get a few choice pieces. JFK is the obvious carrot, but United doesn’t seem to really want a bigger presence in FL or their aircraft. They really don’t want the debt load that they bring either. My guess is that the big 4 aren’t going to buy anyone and just wait and use their size and influence to pick up what they can if players have to significantly downsize or liquidate.
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