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correct me if I’m wrong. but even if a customer pays with their points for a flight to a vacation market the airline still profits from that…The credit card company has to pay the airline for that.
Which is the reason Airline analysts even say that with out the credit cards carriers like American would be not make a profit.
Which is the reason Airline analysts even say that with out the credit cards carriers like American would be not make a profit.
Ideally we have the normal paid load factor of 70-80% and use the last 20-30% of those planes being points redemptions so the marginal cost is low. Rather than just having extra capacity and sticking at 80% load factors. Let's say we do 50 flights/day to MCO then with that plan you can save 10 flights/day to go somewhere else.
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#43
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To be fair, the experience level hired post covid is way down from historic norms. Nothing to do with the guys comments just the reality of the times.
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id also add because of the shortage a lot of people got lucky earlier in in life, didn’t instruct for years like rest of us. They got right seat 91/135 time in G5s for 1500 out of their 2000 which was way more valuable than a Lot of my instructing time etc
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I was hired during the covid/post covid time. I had over 10,000 hours, over 2000 tpic , lca, bachelors, extra extra stuff. Many in my class and after were similar.
id also add because of the shortage a lot of people got lucky earlier in in life, didn’t instruct for years like rest of us. They got right seat 91/135 time in G5s for 1500 out of their 2000 which was way more valuable than a Lot of my instructing time etc
id also add because of the shortage a lot of people got lucky earlier in in life, didn’t instruct for years like rest of us. They got right seat 91/135 time in G5s for 1500 out of their 2000 which was way more valuable than a Lot of my instructing time etc
#46
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#49
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To every Spirit Airlines pilot and flight attendant who woke up this weekend without the job they had yesterday.
You didn't fail. The system failed you.
Here's what I know after 60 years in aviation — a furlough or a shutdown doesn't define your value. Your skills, your judgment, your professionalism in the cockpit and the cabin? Those don't expire.
That's why we’re offering every former Spirit Airlines crew member a FREE one-year membership to First Class Leaders.
First Class Leaders is a pilot and aviation professional community built around leadership, CRM, emotional intelligence, and career development — the skills that make great aviators even better and help you land your next opportunity with confidence.
Join us at join.firstclassleaders.com and use SPIRIT2026 for a FREE year of full access.
No cost. No catch. Just a community that's got your six.
You've earned your wings. Let's make sure the industry knows it.
Bert Botta — Retired Airline/Corporate Captain, Aviation Ghostwriter
You didn't fail. The system failed you.
Here's what I know after 60 years in aviation — a furlough or a shutdown doesn't define your value. Your skills, your judgment, your professionalism in the cockpit and the cabin? Those don't expire.
That's why we’re offering every former Spirit Airlines crew member a FREE one-year membership to First Class Leaders.
First Class Leaders is a pilot and aviation professional community built around leadership, CRM, emotional intelligence, and career development — the skills that make great aviators even better and help you land your next opportunity with confidence.
Join us at join.firstclassleaders.com and use SPIRIT2026 for a FREE year of full access.
No cost. No catch. Just a community that's got your six.
You've earned your wings. Let's make sure the industry knows it.
Bert Botta — Retired Airline/Corporate Captain, Aviation Ghostwriter
#50
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From: In the corner using a lampshade as a hat.
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