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This reads a lot like it is from some union busters trying to divide the pilot group. That is why they won't give their names. I could be wrong, but I don't see it doing much good.
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O.K. I read through most of this poorly organized site's ramblings and found a few very valid points.
For one, that the IAH LEC 171 S.T.'s op-ed piece via the "Magenta Line" is a clear violation of ALPA code of ethics. I think we were all able to make that quantum leap in logic on our own. So if we take that as established fact, what is the purpose of this "informational" website and why not just post all these little tidbits on existing discussion forums? Is it a move to provide an outlet for opinion? If so, that exists here. Is it a move to decertify ALPA at CAL? If so, you are going to need to disclose some identities and show a better way a.s.a.p. Is it a move to attempt to stop the merger? If so, you are going to loose. Looks like just the musings of a malcontent or a wannabe site administrator. |
From that website:
We report the truth! We do not change anything. Some feel without a face to go with the site, it loses credibility. If you would rather be treated like a mushroom by the union (kept in the dark and fed BULL****), then please don't bother to visit this website. If you feel the need for factual information, we welcome your continuing support! The more information you have will only help you decide which way to vote. And: J P threw his hat into the ring for First Vice President just two days ago. This was after he states he would not seek a national seat several times and at a meeting held at LEC 170. We wonder why he changed his mind. Could it be he is a liar, or could it be he is a politician first and never a representative of the pilots. What else is J P lying about? As you can see from the results above, J P did not prevail. All we can say is thank God! Of course this means we are still stuck with a politician/liar for an MEC chairman. Maybe with some luck his days are numbered too. Hmmm...how about the MEC resolution which passed giving the go-ahead for JP to run for First VP during the BOD? I guess technically leaving out information is not the same as changing information, but it sure seems it would be nice to have more information such as this. Actually, many people's actions in this entire mess appear to be a violation of ALPA's Code of Ethics if you ask me, starting with the conduct of the IAH reps at the BOD. The owners of the website are doing the same thing and are in violation of the ALPA Code of Ethics as well. |
Originally Posted by Captain Bligh
(Post 889999)
O.K. I read through most of this poorly organized site's ramblings and found a few very valid points.
For one, that the IAH LEC 171 S.T.'s op-ed piece via the "Magenta Line" is a clear violation of ALPA code of ethics. I think we were all able to make that quantum leap in logic on our own. So if we take that as established fact, what is the purpose of this "informational" website and why not just post all these little tidbits on existing discussion forums? Is it a move to provide an outlet for opinion? If so, that exists here. Is it a move to decertify ALPA at CAL? If so, you are going to need to disclose some identities and show a better way a.s.a.p. Is it a move to attempt to stop the merger? If so, you are going to loose. Looks like just the musings of a malcontent or a wannabe site administrator. |
Originally Posted by Rocketiii
(Post 890058)
It looks like the psychotic rantings of John Ringel. No fact or explanation will suffice.
Without proof its just more of the same untrustworthy drivel. |
Originally Posted by EWRflyr
(Post 890057)
From that website:
And: Hmmm...how about the MEC resolution which passed giving the go-ahead for JP to run for First VP during the BOD? I guess technically leaving out information is not the same as changing information, but it sure seems it would be nice to have more information such as this. Act ually, many people's actions in this entire mess appear to be a violation of ALPA's Code of Ethics if you ask me, starting with the conduct of the IAH reps at the BOD. |
Who gave the Unibomber access to the internet? Seriously, this reads like the Unibomber manifesto.
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Originally Posted by Rocketiii
(Post 890058)
It looks like the psychotic rantings of John Ringel. No fact or explanation will suffice.
My thoughts exactly. The second rumor addressed in the Oct 25 Magenta Line specifically addresses a blast mail these guys sent to many CAL pilots. |
Didn't bother to read it, won't waste my time. My take on life (and LC170 and 171) is show me the product. I will withhold judgment on my representation until I see the product produced for me to vote on in the form of a JCBA. Until that time I don't give a flying **** who gets along with who, who hates who, or anything else. All I care about is the final product. Give me a TA I feel compelled to vote yes on that provides time off, industry leading pay and benefits, job security, and I don't have to work until I die.
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