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XHooker 01-24-2011 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 934900)
...In Dec of 08 the Alaska mec and nc sent out a 30 plus page document to explain why the companies "last, best offer" was completely off the mark and why they could easily afford the associations "last, best offer".....in april of 09, 78% of the pilots voted yes on a TA that was well below the companies last best offer of Dec 08...

Why did the MEC approve a TA they themselves had said was inadequate just four months prior?

EWRflyr 01-24-2011 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 934985)
Why did the MEC approve a TA they themselves had said was inadequate just four months prior?

Aren't facts and questions like that so inconvenient to mention when trying to make an argument?

Have to watch that here. Remember any new JCBA TA must first pass two INDEPENDENT MECs before being sent to our combined pilot group. I strongly believe our combined group is unified on what we want to see, esp. in regards to career protections, etc. However, I also believe that if a JCBA TA gets by the two independent MECs with something unacceptable to the line pilots, it will have a greater chance of being ratified.

Boneman 01-25-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 935036)
Aren't facts and questions like that so inconvenient to mention when trying to make an argument?

Have to watch that here. Remember any new JCBA TA must first pass two INDEPENDENT MECs before being sent to our combined pilot group. I strongly believe our combined group is unified on what we want to see, esp. in regards to career protections, etc. However, I also believe that if a JCBA TA gets by the two independent MECs with something unacceptable to the line pilots, it will have a greater chance of being ratified.

That is not quite correct. The company can ask for the membership to vote on a proposed contract even if it is not endorsed by the MEC(s). I hope you are correct on the second point; however, the current CAL MEC's response to the 70 seat fiasco leaves me wondering. Point three is well taken as we have seen in an earlier thread, some pilots will just do as their MEC recommends regardless of how bad the contract may be.


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