My apologies; I was unaware of that. It's not the first time I've been wrong and it won't be the last. I think that you and I need to talk offline. You don't have 10 posts so I can't shoot you a PM. Set up a dummy hotmail or gmail account, post the email address here and we can take this offline.

Frats,
Andy

 

Try Healthcare Premium Reimbursement election and subsequent assessment.

Fine, next time I'll just vote NO you ungrateful jerk.

 

I hope that CAL's vote was less a crap shoot than UAL's. IIRC, it passed UAL by less than 56%. Not exactly unified support.

 

He loves me...

He loves me not...


The very ugly side effects of an inverse relationship between maturity and seniority.

SP

 

I understand Old UCAL CA's point of view. Rather than insult him, a much better course of action would be to discuss the topic in terms of what we furloughees view as more constructive actions.
I'll begin by saying that I'd like to see written into the contract that drops the flying caps for all pilots on property once the first pilot gets furloughed. Frankly, that would be a lot more costly to anyone who flies near max hours than paying a medical assessment. At this point, I'd respectfully like to hear Old UCAL CA's response.

Hopefully we can make this a civil exchange for more than a few posts.

 

I believe that every furloughed pilot that took advantage of the furlough fund appreciated what the pilots on the property did for them in paying for medical benefits. That being said, there have been an awful lot of instances where the active pilots screwed the United pilots on the street that didn't have a vote. I know in my case I missed out on a $30,000 lump sum distribution because I came back from furlough a couple of weeks after an arbitrary cutoff date. When you consider that Delta pushed for longevity credit for furloughees as well as not caving on the "no furlough" clause, many of us are out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars because of the votes of our ALPA brothers. Add to this the RJ side letter that allowed the parking of 100 airplanes, it is easy to see why guys are unhappy and concerned about how they will treated in the next contract and SLI.

 

amen... .

 

Amen too!!!!!!!!

 

+1 on that.

Being furloughed, and played as a pawn by the company sucks.....no refuting that. It's the ungrateful few like the j-a$$ above make those of us who voted "yes" think twice.

UFB.

 

If you look at a COBRA payment assessment as a moment in time, maybe the furloughed guys should kiss the remaining guys feet and say thank you. Sure, it was a generous thing to vote yes.

However, allow me to re-punctuate: Maybe the remainder, aka the "senior group", should have had enough friggin foresight, strategic thought, and honor to stand up for everyone by crafting agreements that favored the entire projected pilot group, not just themselves. So in a way, is it a tax for lacking foresight and being wholly self-serving?