Negotiating in Public
06-25-2011 | 03:31 PM
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United Airlines Negotiations
It is the company's attempt to negotiate in public by getting
public support/sympathy. Note the copyright United Airlines Inc.
The sad/funny thing is, what they're offering for an Airbus F/O
on reserve is about what is made by a garbage collector with some OT.
So not sure how that's going to get the public on their side.
Hopefully guys are saving up reserve savings to fight this whenever we're released.
Unfortunately, what is the likelyhood that the gov't will allow the largest
U.S. airline to walk? But we need to be ready. If we accept it, we deserve it.
Such absolute, utter bs.
It is the company's attempt to negotiate in public by getting
public support/sympathy. Note the copyright United Airlines Inc.
The sad/funny thing is, what they're offering for an Airbus F/O
on reserve is about what is made by a garbage collector with some OT.
So not sure how that's going to get the public on their side.
Hopefully guys are saving up reserve savings to fight this whenever we're released.
Unfortunately, what is the likelyhood that the gov't will allow the largest
U.S. airline to walk? But we need to be ready. If we accept it, we deserve it.
Such absolute, utter bs.
06-25-2011 | 04:42 PM
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Well I guess this explains why we didn't get a contract in October 2010! Jeff your talents aren't be realized. Please go to DC and use your negotiating prowess to solve the bipartisan debt gridlock. Holy bejesus I'm gonna crack another beer after reading this.
06-26-2011 | 02:50 AM
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If United is anything, they're consistent. I think they did as much, maybe even more, in the 30 days before our strike in 1985 to unify the pilots than ALPA was able to accomplish.
06-26-2011 | 04:51 AM
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There must be some typos or omissions in this document.
1. The scope section mentions 250 large regional jets with less than 95 seats, but for some reason they forgot to list those planes in Category D of the compensation section. Must have just been an oversight on management's part.
2. There was this talk about Delta + $1, but I think they typed wrong. Year one pay says $35.07/hr but I'm sure that has to be a mistake since Delta's year one pay is about $56/hr.
These are only a couple that I have found so far. I mean if I can see these typo errors come on. I guess someone from management needs to proof read for these glaring errors before they propose them. Otherwise, the ALPA negotiators might think this was a joke.
1. The scope section mentions 250 large regional jets with less than 95 seats, but for some reason they forgot to list those planes in Category D of the compensation section. Must have just been an oversight on management's part.
2. There was this talk about Delta + $1, but I think they typed wrong. Year one pay says $35.07/hr but I'm sure that has to be a mistake since Delta's year one pay is about $56/hr.
These are only a couple that I have found so far. I mean if I can see these typo errors come on. I guess someone from management needs to proof read for these glaring errors before they propose them. Otherwise, the ALPA negotiators might think this was a joke.
06-26-2011 | 05:21 AM
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94 seat RJs?
757 dropped to 737 status?
Anyone who votes yes on this should just call ALPA and voluntarily put their name on the scab list.
Last edited by threeighteen; 06-26-2011 at 06:39 AM.
06-26-2011 | 06:01 AM
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Go to work, do your job, and relax.
06-26-2011 | 06:07 AM
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It won't come to a vote....It would never get past the JNC first of all. Secondly, it wouldn't make it past either MEC; thirdly it wouldn't pass a memrat..
It's pretty much a joke...
BTW, only the CA rates are equal to DAL, the FO rates are well below current DAL book.
Put the UAL 2000, DAL 2001, SWA current book or the FDX current book on the table and work UP from there!
It's pretty much a joke...
BTW, only the CA rates are equal to DAL, the FO rates are well below current DAL book.
Put the UAL 2000, DAL 2001, SWA current book or the FDX current book on the table and work UP from there!
06-26-2011 | 06:25 AM
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Mgmt is entitled to thier dream sheet as we are ours. Our dream sheet looks good and we will meet somewhere in the middle or closer to our side I assume. This is a perfect example of why we have yet to get a TA or anything close. The MECs are doing thier job and telling mgmt to show us the money. The biggest caveat is the 250k early out at the bottom. Let's try and split the group and get that 51% vote; let's hold the line guys.
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