Negotiating in Public
06-27-2011 | 03:24 PM
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I'd suggest everyone figure their pay at Delta + 1 after a one or two seat downgrade and/or furlough. That's what the 95 seaters will get you.
If it's still a raise for you - tell your MEC you'd like an opportunity to approve this.
And, by the way, any raise without work rules that actually cause said pay rates to be paid would be an anemic result at best.
PIPE
If it's still a raise for you - tell your MEC you'd like an opportunity to approve this.
And, by the way, any raise without work rules that actually cause said pay rates to be paid would be an anemic result at best.
PIPE
06-27-2011 | 07:22 PM
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What a silly proposal. Do these guys not realize that in a couple years there wont be any regional pilots available to fly those 95 seaters? Pilots are actually helping them out by trying to take the scope back
06-27-2011 | 07:51 PM
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But there is nothing better than getting pilots to pay for what management is going to throw away anyway. Wouldn't it be great to have someone pay you to take your trash away?
06-27-2011 | 08:22 PM
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That thing is:
1) close to a year old
2) nothing more than a wish list
3) not a TA
4) not even enough meaningful substance to show up on X-band
Fuggedaboudit! It's just a joke
Have another beer
C/B
Pete
1) close to a year old
2) nothing more than a wish list
3) not a TA
4) not even enough meaningful substance to show up on X-band
Fuggedaboudit! It's just a joke
Have another beer
C/B
Pete
06-27-2011 | 08:38 PM
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Couldn't have said it better. They know we will be asking for a lot after bailing the company out 8 years ago. They are just trying to move a negotiation centerpoint closer to their wishlist. As was stated in another post.
06-28-2011 | 04:40 AM
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Would be nice. Part of Wendy's response is almost more disturbing to me:
"In the scheduling sections of the contract, for example, our ALPA Subject Matter Experts have quantified our proposal and demonstrated that what we are asking for—to maintain UAL’s present work rules—is actually less costly than Delta’s current contract. "
I've heard CAL current work rules are lacking, but the current UAL work rules are still from a bankruptcy contract and certainly need improvements as well.
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06-28-2011 | 07:11 AM
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06-28-2011 | 07:40 AM
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From: right for a long, long time
Would be nice. Part of Wendy's response is almost more disturbing to me:
"In the scheduling sections of the contract, for example, our ALPA Subject Matter Experts have quantified our proposal and demonstrated that what we are asking for—to maintain UAL’s present work rules—is actually less costly than Delta’s current contract. "
I've heard CAL current work rules are lacking, but the current UAL work rules are still from a bankruptcy contract and certainly need improvements as well.
"In the scheduling sections of the contract, for example, our ALPA Subject Matter Experts have quantified our proposal and demonstrated that what we are asking for—to maintain UAL’s present work rules—is actually less costly than Delta’s current contract. "
I've heard CAL current work rules are lacking, but the current UAL work rules are still from a bankruptcy contract and certainly need improvements as well.
Or is it time to dust off the recall rules section of the by-laws...
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