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Old 07-08-2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by missingbite View Post
I pray you are right! When people ask me what a major airline pilot makes and they hear $135.00/hour they about hit the floor. It takes time to educate them what that means. They just don't understand.
Divide out the average trip's hours by time away from base, when I do that it drops to around $25 per hour-ish from $94 per hour.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:16 PM
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But the public does matter, just not in the way you're portraying it.
Study summer 2K and you'll understand how public perception is a huge
power in our favor, but it has nothing to do with who's side they're on.
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:46 PM
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Apparently management does care about what the public thinks as they're now defending themselves with their latest post to their negotiations website.

"Recent very public claims that sub-Continental pilots are “now flying an average approaching 90 hours a month” are not true. The chart below shows the actual average for June 2011 for each fleet for both lineholders and reserves. As can be seen, the more correct statement would be that sub-Continental pilots are “now flying an average approaching 65 hours a month.” An average that is not markedly different from years past, including 2010 (shown below) when line values were reduced pursuant to a negotiated furlough mitigation agreement with ALPA."

United Airlines Negotiations : Fact check : Pilot Flying Hours
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse View Post
Care to elaborate?
Not here.
If you're serious about not understanding, talk to anyone who
was around for the Summer 2K times and it will become very obvious.
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Old 07-09-2011, 05:41 PM
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If someone thinks 80 or 90 hours a month sounds good, I ask them how many hours a week their car is in the company parking lot, then tell them that in order to make 80 hours a month of pay, my car does 80 a week.

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Old 07-09-2011, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225 View Post
Apparently management does care about what the public thinks as they're now defending themselves with their latest post to their negotiations website.

"Recent very public claims that sub-Continental pilots are “now flying an average approaching 90 hours a month” are not true. The chart below shows the actual average for June 2011 for each fleet for both lineholders and reserves. As can be seen, the more correct statement would be that sub-Continental pilots are “now flying an average approaching 65 hours a month.” An average that is not markedly different from years past, including 2010 (shown below) when line values were reduced pursuant to a negotiated furlough mitigation agreement with ALPA."

United Airlines Negotiations : Fact check : Pilot Flying Hours
Do they average pilots who are on leave and vacation, deadhead, training or instructors into the equation to get these low values? Of course not.

68.2% of all statistics are made up.
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Nothing says professionalism like management airing ones laundry out in the court of public opinion.



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