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Old 10-09-2011 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG
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Wrong, the 1113c "dream sheet" from the company became nothing once the required negotiations went into play. Wedoff could not have ruled on anything other than the "last/best offer" from the company in the required negotiations. Not the original term sheet. In other words, you would have gotten the same contract with a "amendable date" of BK exit. Doesn't mean you'd have a contract today. But, you would have been in section 6 since that date. And, that much closer to release.

This is not interpretation but precedent. The "contract" would have been no worse than the one you have, and would be open for renegotiation once the company exited.

Now, if you want to talk about the merits of "fair and equitable," then in my opinion, Wedoff could have never ruled in the company's favor in an 1113c ruling based on the percentage of concessions being sought from the pilots relative to the other groups. That is of course based upon competant legal counsel.......we had Cohen Weiss and Sh*thead.....same folks TWA had.

Their legal scorecard since the 70's isn't too impressive. For some reason ALPA Nat'l endorses them. They are a labor law firm and never should have been the lead in the BK process.

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I've never heard this, and that was most definitely NOT the way it was explained to us during the roadshows, so I'm not sure what precedent you are referring to? I don't know of a pilot contract that was imposed by a judge during Ch 11 to use as am example. I also don't buy for a SECOND that the judge would require an equal percentage of concessions from pilots as other employee groups. Where did you get that from?
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Old 10-11-2011 | 07:00 AM
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Anyone else get an email from Paul Rice? I almost fell out of my chair when he said he is ona 6 day trip. Like to see how much flying he has done over his 28 years of "service"
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Old 10-11-2011 | 08:36 AM
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Anyone else get an email from Paul Rice? I almost fell out of my chair when he said he is ona 6 day trip. Like to see how much flying he has done over his 28 years of "service"
You may want to get use to him, Mr. RJ, "information is bad" Rice is on the leader board for the concessionists. His problem, if he gets Wendy's eight votes, he will be looking at being recalled after the next election cycle.

He is the father of the 3 year LEC term. That idea moved the LEC representatives away from their constituents and is part of the reason the MEC is dysfunctional.
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Old 10-11-2011 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Baron50
You may want to get use to him, Mr. RJ, "information is bad" Rice is on the leader board for the concessionists. His problem, if he gets Wendy's eight votes, he will be looking at being recalled after the next election cycle.

He is the father of the 3 year LEC term. That idea moved the LEC representatives away from their constituents and is part of the reason the MEC is dysfunctional.
Will never get used to him, in fact can't stand him. Makes me want out of this organizaion.
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Old 10-11-2011 | 06:58 PM
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The guy is a self-serving, ALPA trip drop-abusing, d!ck.
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Old 10-11-2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Anyone else get an email from Paul Rice? I almost fell out of my chair when he said he is ona 6 day trip. Like to see how much flying he has done over his 28 years of "service"
Yeah, that email SHOCKED me.
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Old 10-14-2011 | 05:10 AM
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Paul Rice = Wendy, with a thicker mustache
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Old 10-14-2011 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Paul Rice = Wendy, with a thicker mustache
I literally just choked on my cereal. Now THAT was funny!
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Old 10-14-2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Paul Rice = Wendy, with a thicker mustache
You SURE it is thicker?!
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Old 10-14-2011 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Paul Rice = Wendy, with a thicker mustache
With different 'parts'......one would hope.
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