Realist vs. Idealist
#31
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Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce. Try looking at your shambles of an MEC. That is where you'll find the real issues. I'm surprised that someone who takes the time to write what you perceive as a really pithy reply just can't figure it out. You guys really are boring. If you don't get your little baby way then you jump up and down and pout and call everyone scab-like. It is absolutely mindblowing how immature you people are.
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Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce. Try looking at your shambles of an MEC. That is where you'll find the real issues. I'm surprised that someone who takes the time to write what you perceive as a really pithy reply just can't figure it out. You guys really are boring. If you don't get your little baby way then you jump up and down and pout and call everyone scab-like. It is absolutely mindblowing how immature you people are.
Last edited by dexim; 01-11-2012 at 07:19 AM. Reason: Don't want him going Postal over at CAL
#33
What is "mind-blowing" to me is the number of pilots who cannot see how their attitudes and actions (or inaction) play right into managements hands during THE pivotal moment in our careers. They cannot see how the JCBA will be adversely affected and cannot see the train pointed right at them.
I used to optimistic about this combined airline and what could be achieved IF the majority of the pilots were the least bit educated WRT to labor issues and managements hatred of a unionized, organized pilot group. But what I read here has me completely bamboozled.
Now I don't see a contract any time soon. I see angry UAL pilots commuting to IAH and angry CAL pilots commuting to ORD, DEN and perhaps SFO and the continued assault on our careers by UCAL. And I see pilots helping them in their assault and then complaining about the failures of ALPA.
It's amazing.
I used to optimistic about this combined airline and what could be achieved IF the majority of the pilots were the least bit educated WRT to labor issues and managements hatred of a unionized, organized pilot group. But what I read here has me completely bamboozled.
Now I don't see a contract any time soon. I see angry UAL pilots commuting to IAH and angry CAL pilots commuting to ORD, DEN and perhaps SFO and the continued assault on our careers by UCAL. And I see pilots helping them in their assault and then complaining about the failures of ALPA.
It's amazing.
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#34
Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, Pierce. Try looking at your shambles of an MEC. That is where you'll find the real issues. I'm surprised that someone who takes the time to write what you perceive as a really pithy reply just can't figure it out. You guys really are boring. If you don't get your little baby way then you jump up and down and pout and call everyone scab-like. It is absolutely mindblowing how immature you people are.
Also, did you scab for Lorenzo or not? You may wear your pin and pay dues now, but you didn't answer the question.
#35
What is "mind-blowing" to me is the number of pilots who cannot see how their attitudes and actions (or inaction) play right into managements hands during THE pivotal moment in our careers. They cannot see how the JCBA will be adversely affected and cannot see the train pointed right at them.
I used to optimistic about this combined airline and what could be achieved IF the majority of the pilots were the least bit educated WRT to labor issues and managements hatred of a unionized, organized pilot group. But what I read here has me completely bamboozled.
Now I don't see a contract any time soon. I see angry UAL pilots commuting to IAH and angry CAL pilots commuting to ORD, DEN and perhaps SFO and the continued assault on our careers by UCAL. And I see pilots helping them in their assault and then complaining about the failures of ALPA.
It's amazing.
I used to optimistic about this combined airline and what could be achieved IF the majority of the pilots were the least bit educated WRT to labor issues and managements hatred of a unionized, organized pilot group. But what I read here has me completely bamboozled.
Now I don't see a contract any time soon. I see angry UAL pilots commuting to IAH and angry CAL pilots commuting to ORD, DEN and perhaps SFO and the continued assault on our careers by UCAL. And I see pilots helping them in their assault and then complaining about the failures of ALPA.
It's amazing.
They are The Stepford Pilots.
#36
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I'm not aware of any issues going on with the UAL MEC. We have new officers in place and I have not heard of any conflicts. Why don't you fill us in on what you know?
Also, did you scab for Lorenzo or not? You may wear your pin and pay dues now, but you didn't answer the question.
Also, did you scab for Lorenzo or not? You may wear your pin and pay dues now, but you didn't answer the question.
Do you imagine yourself a real life Snake Pliskin - Really??? Are you even a pilot?
That's a shack - ooh wow, r u a military pilot?
#37
This is just too funny. Somebody disagrees with your incredibly immature and myopic opinions and ergo they must be a scab. Try concentrating on growing up before you stumble into the realm of judging others.
Do you imagine yourself a real life Snake Pliskin - Really??? Are you even a pilot?
That's a shack - ooh wow, r u a military pilot?
Do you imagine yourself a real life Snake Pliskin - Really??? Are you even a pilot?
That's a shack - ooh wow, r u a military pilot?
#38
I'm not a scab, don't like the way the PS went down and I'm TIRED of the petty finger pointing coming from some of you on here.
We get it, you don't like the way Pierce handled the PS. We'll take care of our own problems as you should be doing with your own MEC. Pierce's mistake wasn't fatal and quite frankly, its our internal business, not yours.
Perhaps you Pierce complainers can get to fixing your own dysfunctional MEC and let us take care of things on the CAL side.
Rome is burning and all you can do is complain about the Carthaginians not taking out their own trash.
We get it, you don't like the way Pierce handled the PS. We'll take care of our own problems as you should be doing with your own MEC. Pierce's mistake wasn't fatal and quite frankly, its our internal business, not yours.
Perhaps you Pierce complainers can get to fixing your own dysfunctional MEC and let us take care of things on the CAL side.
Rome is burning and all you can do is complain about the Carthaginians not taking out their own trash.
#39
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I'm not a scab, don't like the way the PS went down and I'm TIRED of the petty finger pointing coming from some of you on here.
We get it, you don't like the way Pierce handled the PS. We'll take care of our own problems as you should be doing with your own MEC. Pierce's mistake wasn't fatal and quite frankly, its our internal business, not yours.
Perhaps you Pierce complainers can get to fixing your own dysfunctional MEC and let us take care of things on the CAL side.
Rome is burning and all you can do is complain about the Carthaginians not taking out their own trash.
We get it, you don't like the way Pierce handled the PS. We'll take care of our own problems as you should be doing with your own MEC. Pierce's mistake wasn't fatal and quite frankly, its our internal business, not yours.
Perhaps you Pierce complainers can get to fixing your own dysfunctional MEC and let us take care of things on the CAL side.
Rome is burning and all you can do is complain about the Carthaginians not taking out their own trash.
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Oh Dexim, where would you be moving on to? Union Nirvana perhaps? I doubt it quite frankly. You'll always be in search of the Holy Grail but never to discover its location. No doubt you are a veteran of many battles; orange v. blue ball, Delta seniority, United interview, C2000, and now the merger. Relax, we'll get through this and hopefully at the end of the day you'll look back with a smile on your face. Of course as a moron you probably always have a smile on your face.


Last edited by dexim; 01-11-2012 at 01:50 PM. Reason: Took out reference to his BF John


