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APC225 01-27-2012 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by WarEagle28 (Post 1124086)
The primary reason to hold you accountable: You refer to yourself in the 3rd person, kind of weird.

Jimmy's got new training shoes. Jimmy can jump.

The Jimmy - YouTube

Old UCAL CA 01-27-2012 07:26 AM

Very "Dobby/Gollum" like.

dexim 01-27-2012 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1124104)
Jimmy's got new training shoes. Jimmy can jump.

The Jimmy - YouTube

That's funny, but I'm offended. Pierce is right! You CAL guys will get what he wants you to have. We had a pos like that. His name is Paul Whiteford - read\watch\learn. Won't repeat his deeds - the information is out there if you guys take the time to read instead of bash.

WarEagle28 01-27-2012 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1124126)
Won't repeat his deeds - the information is out there if you guys take the time to read instead of bash.

Coming from the guy who called ALL CAL Pilots SCABS for the Profit Sharing deal that JP did! You are a joke!

dexim 01-27-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by WarEagle28 (Post 1124151)
Coming from the guy who called ALL CAL Pilots SCABS for the Profit Sharing deal that JP did! You are a joke!


I don't remember saying that. May have used "SCAB LIKE", but if you took it that way it sticks/sucks. Have you noticed the number of UAL guys not posting on this forum? Wonder what they are up to?

boxer6 01-27-2012 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by WarEagle28 (Post 1124086)
The primary reason to hold you accountable: You refer to yourself in the 3rd person, kind of weird.

Yeah.. 3rd person is..well.. different... and while reading through the thread I saw all of your points and nodded...until:


"- CAL MEC Chairman testifies for company against UAL MEC in training lawsuit. Something about the UAL MEC wanting to much training.

- CAL MEC leadership sends out Email to CAL pilots explaining why they had to split with UAL MEC on training lawsuit. Something about pride, profession and the CAL way of life.

- CAL MEC Chairman accepts a company designed plan to give the CAL pilots Profit Sharing and leaving the UAL MEC with no way to negotiate for equal treatment under the TPA. Something about UAL MEC asking for to much."


Then I seem to remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Pierce would:

Not sign the letter that the JCBA will not affect the ISL (Like the DAL/NWA boys did) .

This, AFTER the UAL pilots, seemingly in an effort to cooperate, caved in on banding.

AND

Pierce wants all of the UAL pilots W-2's.

Hate to say it, but just because the messenger annoys everybody, don't know why your ire is not raised. Unless just not publically? Question for the UA guys: Doesn't this raise REALLY BIG RED FLAGS with you? Nevermind.. I know it does..it HAS to. You're just not going to say so here...right?

AxlF16 01-27-2012 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by boxer6 (Post 1124183)
Yeah.. 3rd person is..well.. different... and while reading through the thread I saw all of your points and nodded...until:


"- CAL MEC Chairman testifies for company against UAL MEC in training lawsuit. Something about the UAL MEC wanting to much training.

- CAL MEC leadership sends out Email to CAL pilots explaining why they had to split with UAL MEC on training lawsuit. Something about pride, profession and the CAL way of life.

- CAL MEC Chairman accepts a company designed plan to give the CAL pilots Profit Sharing and leaving the UAL MEC with no way to negotiate for equal treatment under the TPA. Something about UAL MEC asking for to much."


Then I seem to remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Pierce would:

Not sign the letter that the JCBA will not affect the ISL (Like the DAL/NWA boys did) .

This, AFTER the UAL pilots, seemingly in an effort to cooperate, caved in on banding.

AND

Pierce wants all of the UAL pilots W-2's.

Hate to say it, but just because the messenger annoys everybody, don't know why your ire is not raised. Unless just not publically? Question for the UA guys: Doesn't this raise REALLY BIG RED FLAGS with you? Nevermind.. I know it does..it HAS to. You're just not going to say so here...right?

Correct. Sure, Dexim is stirring up some folks with his posts. And sure, it may lead to some disunity -- ON THIS FORUM. I didn't think I could find a smaller echo chamber than the UAL ALPA pilots forum...then I came here. Sorry, but if Dexim ****es you guys off, it still won't even ripple the entire pilot groups. The problem is that he speaks the truth in a lot of ways. I won't rub it in and belabor the point, but you can rest assured that I've gotten the message from the CAL leadership (and pilot group by default) loud and clear. The result is that I don't trust your leadership, and from what I see so far I bet that the majority of CAL pilots will walk along behind P(OS)ierce picking up the goodies while feigning ignorance and unity. This is the message that I'm sending to my LEC leadership -- I just choose to keep it of this forum (for the most part).

Just because Dexim is the only UAL pilot one here espousing this view, you shouldn't dismiss him as an aberration.

Question for all CAL pilots:
-Do you think that both Master Chairmen should sign an agreement to exclude all JCBA items/issues/terms from the SLI process?

EWR73FO 01-27-2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1124165)
I don't remember saying that. May have used "SCAB LIKE", but if you took it that way it sticks/sucks. Have you noticed the number of UAL guys not posting on this forum? Wonder what they are up to?

Completely bashing and ripping up any CAL pilot that even breathes. You're getting off easy here.

dexim 01-27-2012 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by EWR73FO (Post 1124400)
Completely bashing and ripping up any CAL pilot that even breathes. You're getting off easy here.

Not true! I've tried to keep Pierce and his doings front and center. As long as Pierce is in a position to impact me, my family and our future - I will not let anybody forget what he did. You must be one of the those approving his misdeeds. Don't blame me.

Blockoutblockin 01-27-2012 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1124462)
Not true! I've tried to keep Pierce and his doings front and center. As long as Pierce is in a position to impact me, my family and our future - I will not let anybody forget what he did. You must be one of the those approving his misdeeds. Don't blame me.

Hmmm, you are beginning to sound like someone I know. Specifically one of the dynamic duo. Hmmm, I wonder which one you might be. I'm thinking the crazy one - oopps, that doesn't narrow it down does it?


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