This is the byproduct of employees being forced to learn a different system, (not necessarily a better one), with no incentive other than the choice of being shown the door. Still fresh in the minds of those employees is the large payout for smizek and tilton for dreaming up this merger while us peons are being told to make it work or else.

It wasn't me saying that. I've always said that CAL had nothing UAL wanted and that gets "more true" every day.

My feelings exactly .. it feels like we've gone from working at a Westin to working at a Motel 6. Jeff and company are running Hillbilly airlines... cheapest coffee, cheapest first class meals, cheapest red carpet club food, cheapest crew meals. Really, working with coworker Jeff is like inviting your Ozark cousins to a a black tie affair. They WANT to be classy, but just don't have a clue as to how to get there.

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They do well at dog and pony shows. Why do we still have CAL and UAL pilots having their picture taken with the company banner in the background. I don't care what the cause, If the cause is that important to you do it outside the company and not in uniform. I don't know how to post pictures on this forum, but maybe some of these company pix should show up with names, so we can all get to know the people better.

I had a DH the other day and during my stroll towards the back for a lav break and stretch I ended up talking with a 1K Status passenger. He was seated in the last row by the lav because the agent told him the plane had no E+ on board (it did). He said that was just one of the many things he'd have to write another e-mail about or making another phone call over. A very nice business guy, not someone complaining just to complain. He said he understands that the crews pretty much have no control over what's been going on, but then added: "I liked the United system. I liked the Continental system. Both systems were great by themselves. I do not like the 'new' system at all and the airline is going to start losing customers very quickly as this is no way to treat regular customers, let alone the premium fliers." I wish I had gotten his name for a chance at a Q&A exchange with Smisek to see how he wanted to handle that question.

You don't need to ask Jeff. The only way he/they will see the problem is if they see a hit in bottom line numbers. If anything, it may help us get a JCBA sooner. Jeff will see it as an employee problem and not a management problem and offer money. Just fly the airplane by contract and left the airline self-implode.