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1257 04-07-2012 01:12 PM

What a joke, total propaganda and management pukes.
Talk to any line 320 driver, it's a cluster and not working.

ewrbasedpilot 04-07-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by 30west (Post 1165648)
I will point out those pilots in the video are management pilots, in particular the guy talking in most of has been a management pilot for as long as I can remember, he changes hats every few years, guess they couldn't find a plain line guy to be on the video.

That's good to hear. I will say the few guys I know that have the ipads at CAL don't even use them. They sit in their homes plugged into the wall to keep them charged and that's as far as they go. This whole "ipad" thing is a big joke. Ever since they announced how much money they are supposed to save, our jepps have gotten thicker, we have to carry the IFOG, and our flight bags are about 10 lbs heavier. Fuel savings my ass. All they've REALLY done is cost our company more money.:rolleyes:

SpecialTracking 04-07-2012 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA (Post 1165570)
I don't mean to throw a wet blanket on this "grinch" parade but I watched the video. All pilots pictured seemed to be pretty normal, half-full types doing the job and explaining how newer technology will help a little more in the efficiency, planning and analysis of a given flight.

They were a little young compared to me, but hey, everyone's young compared to me...nor is everybody as miserable as this board tends to be. "Half-full" works best through most phases of life. :)

Did you actually listen to the claims they made in the video?

Cruz Clearance 04-07-2012 10:33 PM

I predict the entire iPad program will be cancelled within a few months.
There will be no media fanfare, just 12000+ obsolete iPad 2's dumped on eBay.:D

ewrbasedpilot 04-09-2012 05:29 AM

So, let me get this straight, in the "past" we carried jepp binders and we're saving 16,000,000 pieces of paper? Where is this guy and who is he working for? We're carrying more jepp paper than we've ever carried and burning more gas while we're at it. This must be a "2015" video or something. NONE of what I saw is factual or in practice. :rolleyes:

LeeFXDWG 04-09-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz Clearance (Post 1165881)
I predict the entire iPad program will be cancelled within a few months.
There will be no media fanfare, just 12000+ obsolete iPad 2's dumped on eBay.:D

They won't dump them on eBay, they'll put them into the same storage with all those Tasers..........

Frats,
Lee

Yak02 04-09-2012 01:54 PM

I heard the same story from the Southwest pilots when they started getting airplanes with the FMS. "I ain't using that damn thing."

Today our highly experienced "children of the magenta line" can't hit their ass with a scoop shovel when trying to fly the airplane with the box covered up.

Pretty pathetic when the same pilots are complaining about getting something that will make their easy job easier. Didn't the job offer you got from this industry say that there might be some additional responsibilities of yours over that of a Home Depot employee?

UalHvy 04-09-2012 04:52 PM

Perhaps the Home depot employee is treated with more respect by his management.

Ottopilot 04-10-2012 01:33 PM

I haven't seen any video, nor do I care to. I have used the iPad belonging to a check airman I flew with. It works just fine. Plus, I can look up stuff in manuals normally located at home. From what I'm told, its just a ebook reader. Your manuals will be put on it. Eventually, after an adjustment period, you won't need paper manuals. Plug in, battery, etc are not a problem because I rarely look something up anyway. Later on, iPads will be installed in the aircraft with Jepps on it. They will be mounted and have power. You will still carry the iPad reader for your manuals too. So, there will be four ipads minimum per aircraft. The test one had Jepps and it worked great; Enroute charts and all. I could care less about iPads, but the idea of dumping all manuals and Jepps someday will be worth it. One pound vs. 45 pounds. Easy choice. I'm not sure why people are getting their panties in a bunch about this?

intrepidcv11 04-10-2012 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1167208)
I'm not sure why people are getting their panties in a bunch about this?

I don't think anybody is getting their panties in a bunch so to speak. The
'I Pads by August' debacle is a fitting example of the cluster **** that is Fred's Flying Circus. Therefore anytime he and his underlings try to make themselves look world class I call them out for the pathetic Yes Men that they are. I think most agree that the poop shovels of merger integration by memo to both pilot groups is a much more fitting example of United Flight Ops showing 'dignity and respect'.


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