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Old 07-11-2012 | 07:09 PM
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Old 07-11-2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bkaz
Really? What colors will they be flying under? I wasn't aware that the employee contracts at any airlines Skywest partners with would allow the current rj fleet to be replaced with an aircraft of that size.
Mesaba flies 900's. Republic/et al flies the 170. Compass flies the 170. Size/Weight doesn't matter unless it's specifically addressed in the scope clause.

I've seen some contracts where, in theory, management could fly 747s at a regional if they limited the seats to 50 seats or less.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 04:39 AM
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Like I said b4, scope is a thing of the past management will fly these planes regardless of your scope clause e.g. 70 seat a/c sitting in EWR in CAL colors. Alliances will be flying 100+ seat a/c in the US within the next five years. You scope A/C when your real threat is the alliances.

My advice to you take the cash because this fight is over and UAL seems content to turn you guys into the next USAir. Trust me im not advocating this its just our future. You guys have Delta ALPA working against you so you think there gonna go back to them with your 50 seat scope when they just rolled on 76?
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Old 07-12-2012 | 04:58 AM
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Not CAL colors, UAL colors. I'm not giving up the fight. Enjoy your career at XJT. Don't bother applying at UAL, we don't need more weak people.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Like I said b4,
Reading the direction that written correspondance is headed is like a railroad spike through the forhead.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Like I said b4, scope is a thing of the past management will fly these planes regardless of your scope clause e.g. 70 seat a/c sitting in EWR in CAL colors. Alliances will be flying 100+ seat a/c in the US within the next five years. You scope A/C when your real threat is the alliances.

My advice to you take the cash because this fight is over and UAL seems content to turn you guys into the next USAir. Trust me im not advocating this its just our future. You guys have Delta ALPA working against you so you think there gonna go back to them with your 50 seat scope when they just rolled on 76?
Surrender now the sky is falling!! Please stay at your regional we really don't need people like you around here.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Not CAL colors, UAL colors. I'm not giving up the fight. Enjoy your career at XJT. Don't bother applying at UAL, we don't need more weak people.
Exactly. Apply somewhere else.....
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Old 07-12-2012 | 07:29 AM
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Apply elsewhere for what reason? You guys are dreamers! This fight is lost, period! You can't see it because you hold on to hope, hope this industry will somehow allow us all to fly 747's. News Flash!!! Did you guys just fall down the rabbit hole and find yourself in wonderland, because that's how you sound.

You accuse me of not putting up a fight, guys we don't have the fortitude amongst us. We have four different pilot agenda working against us i.e. New Hire full if **** and vinegar, Line Holders content and stable with there seniority, Broke or Bankrupted who will do anything to bring home cash regardless who it hurts, and the retiring soon who could give an F about u or I, only there cash position and how to maximize it. Can u blame them what they been through and now what were going through.

51% is all that's required and u and I will have to live with that reality...so keep up the good fight its commendable but hopeless. As I said Delta MEC sealed the 76 seat a/c and I would bet my left nut that's what UAL will sing off on.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 07:35 AM
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^^^^^ Are you still pist about the VAC Passes?? ^^^^^
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Old 07-12-2012 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Apply elsewhere for what reason? You guys are dreamers! This fight is lost, period! You can't see it because you hold on to hope, hope this industry will somehow allow us all to fly 747's. News Flash!!! Did you guys just fall down the rabbit hole and find yourself in wonderland, because that's how you sound.

You accuse me of not putting up a fight, guys we don't have the fortitude amongst us. We have four different pilot agenda working against us i.e. New Hire full if **** and vinegar, Line Holders content and stable with there seniority, Broke or Bankrupted who will do anything to bring home cash regardless who it hurts, and the retiring soon who could give an F about u or I, only there cash position and how to maximize it. Can u blame them what they been through and now what were going through.

51% is all that's required and u and I will have to live with that reality...so keep up the good fight its commendable but hopeless. As I said Delta MEC sealed the 76 seat a/c and I would bet my left nut that's what UAL will sing off on.
I hear amr will be hiring soon...I'd give them a shot.
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