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07-12-2012 | 09:26 AM

#21

Airhoss

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XJT..

It's always so refreshing to hear from the perspective a fresh young person!

In fact it made me LMFAO..LOL no just JK, AFIK ur right about ever flying the 747 (777 in my case) (again). It all like, depends on how like, the ISL turns out, like DUHHH!! You know what I'm saying dawg! LOL!

But Iz be perfectly happy flying a narrow body at decent rate (again). I was getting kind burned out on long haul stuff when I left it anyway.

But B4 I do that Iz wannab in the left seatz (again) LOL no JK! Cuz thatz B PHAT D!

OMG Teen mom is on M-Tv so I gotz a splitz. Smell YAAA!! LOL.... JK

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BTW Did u no that M-Tv used to play music videos only no shows, OMG LOL!

TTYL .... K!

Last edited by Airhoss; 07-12-2012 at 09:30 AM. Reason: My 16 year old daughter told me TTYL is mo better than C.U. as a sign off.

07-12-2012 | 10:18 AM

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shiznit

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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot

Like I said b4, scope is a thing of the past management will fly these planes regardless of your scope clause e.g. 70 seat a/c sitting in EWR in CAL colors. Alliances will be flying 100+ seat a/c in the US within the next five years. You scope A/C when your real threat is the alliances.

My advice to you take the cash because this fight is over and UAL seems content to turn you guys into the next USAir. Trust me im not advocating this its just our future. You guys have Delta ALPA working against you so you think there gonna go back to them with your 50 seat scope when they just rolled on 76?

Hey XJT pilot, being an XJT alum myself, its a little embarrassing to see you "giving advice" (and very bad advice at that) to anyone at a legacy, there are a lot of pilots with a lot more experience in dealing with contracts and bad management than you, listening and learning might serve you better in this part of APF.

BTW, Delta ALPA isn't "working against" UCAL.

DALPA held the line where it was already established due to BK and the 1113 threat, capped it lower than the old CBA and put caps on ALL "express" type flying. DAL Inc. wanted 88 seats at the opening of contract talks and still was attempting to get 79-82 even to the very last day of negotiations. Not sure how that is "working against" anyone except the DCI pilots who will be loosing approx. 1400 jobs due to the elimination of RJ flying and the shift of those jobs to mainline...

UAL held the 70 seat line in BK, I'm expecting that the UCAL group will hold the line where it currently exists as well. It is my hope that UCAL will get their 560+ RJ's/TP's to a cap of 375-425, which is lower than the DAL cap of 450(598 currently). It's all about the laddering, BK days are OVER!

In other areas of scope that doesn't get noticed by the "RJ Driver", UCAL needs to tighten up domestic and Int'l JV/cs language, and I am confident that they will (USAir/Aer Lingus).

Just keep listening and learning, show up and walk the picket lines for as many ALPA groups as you can, there is a LOT you can learn from that.

To my UAL and CAL brothers, just make the call. I've shown up to picket more than a few times for y'all and will when called upon in the future.