Actually, you're wrong. As a former scheduling committee guy, they do it the same way too...based on block hours. The variables (those pesky work rules, vacation, etc.) result in different pilot requirements. There is no "x" number of pilots per aircraft calculation made at UAL for pilot staffing.

Frats,
Lee

I agree with the move on part, but the merger policy wasn't changed by anything UAL ALPA did. It was changed by Nat'l after the DAL/NWA merger precedent. And the change came about well before the UAL/CAL merger. If you have information on some action by UAL ALPA having a part in that change please share.

Frats,
Lee

Why not go to the source for accurate information?

"As always, I welcome the opportunity to connect with you via phone or e-mail. Please make contact if I can be of help.
Respectfully,
Andy Chen
872-825-9502
[email protected]"

Keeping in mind that Andy Chen is despised by most United pilots, you can also contact the UAL MEC Furlough Coordinator:

"If you need clarification, have any questions or need further assistance, please contact:

J. Todd Coomans
UAL MEC Furlough Coordinator
[email protected]
847-292-1700 Ext. 6 "

+1

The last thing UAL ALPA would have wanted to do in fear of a USAir merger was add longevity to the equation given the demographics of the two groups.

Rather the "new" ALPA policy was the outcome of the hard lessons learned by the US Airways/America West fiasco.

We should be following the lead of the IAM and AFA which is now DOH.

Yeah right....give the 83-85 guys instant left seat in all your 74's and 777's, that will work out just fine for your senior guys huh? (eyes rolling)

You should think before you freaking post.

Im all for credit where credit is due..ie: longevity, career expectations, time in seat etc. All that is worth some percentage in a SLI

But I don't agree for a minute that ANYONE should end up much more senior or junior that they were before the merger.

We all know more than a few will get screwed in this SLI, it shouldn't be a complete A... f...ing

No it shouldn't but we'll know if the SLI was successful if every pilot (other than #1) is equally complaining about their A...f...ing.

Isn't there a group at cal that did some flow through I think they call it where they didn't fly at cal until 93 or 95 but there seniority is 87 or 89 something along those lines? They flew for cal express before that?

There were pilots transitioning from the old "COEX" for a lot of years starting in the early 90's from flow through or PDP (pilot development program), and later on express jet flow through. Some were deferred from transitioning at their due times for staffing reasons. They have seniority from their original scheduled transisition time. That all ended in early 2005.

And of course after 9-11 there were flow backs to COEX, you could take a seat at COEX or furlough. Clear as mud...

Think before I post, really? I have had 13 years to think. I have been screwed by more senior pilots at United more times than I can count. Think bond distribution, no furlough clause. I have 1650 Continental pilots that were hired after me, if you only include time on the property, then it is still 1625 pilots behind me. I am fine with date of hire. Screw the 83-85 hires on both lists.