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When did "Fly the Contract" become illegal?
When did we start lying down and stop fighting when "Fly the Contract" became illegal?
God I want real leadership at the Top. We have been played by the company long enough.. First a merger that most didn't want.. then a delayed JCBA but extended TPA's... then an "AIP Agreement" which doesn't seem to be heading anywhere (more delay tactics)...
A Union that has asked to be released 3 times, yet nothing has happened..
I would follow my Union anywhere if they grew some balls and led. What needs to happen is (and I know it's illegal)- we have to pick a day and just say **** It. Strike.
I don't want to Strike, I don't want to play these games, but I'm tired. I'm tired of being lied to by management, and not being told the truth by my Union.
This all sucks~
Motch
When did we start lying down and stop fighting when "Fly the Contract" became illegal?
God I want real leadership at the Top. We have been played by the company long enough.. First a merger that most didn't want.. then a delayed JCBA but extended TPA's... then an "AIP Agreement" which doesn't seem to be heading anywhere (more delay tactics)...
A Union that has asked to be released 3 times, yet nothing has happened..
I would follow my Union anywhere if they grew some balls and led. What needs to happen is (and I know it's illegal)- we have to pick a day and just say **** It. Strike.
I don't want to Strike, I don't want to play these games, but I'm tired. I'm tired of being lied to by management, and not being told the truth by my Union.
This all sucks~
Motch
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When a Federal Judge ordered the UAL pilots to maintain status quo and considered "Fly the Contract" was code for slowdown.
Not that it matters now, but you didn't get kicked of the other forum for saying that. You got kicked off for repeatedly saying it after being asked to stop. See the difference?
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Not that it matters now, but you didn't get kicked of the other forum for saying that. You got kicked off for repeatedly saying it after being asked to stop. See the difference?
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From: 756 Left Side
Actually Cadet.. if you go back to my posts/threads on the "other" Forum, you'll see that I did not ALWAYS say it. I said it (wrote it) when the thread revolved around the "attitude of the Continental Pilots" with regards to the United Pilots.
How many "United Pilots" have been banned from your Forum?
Anyways..
The point being- Yes, a Federal Judge told UAL/ALPA (years ago) "Fly the Contract" is illegal. How about ALPA and the UAL/ALPA team call Bull**** and try and fight that again!
If Flying the Contract is Illegal in our Country, and my National Union or Local Union doesn't want to fight that.. I have a problem with that.
I'm not comparing the plight of the Blacks in America in the 50's/60's.. or Womens Rights..
But, they stood up for an injustice and did things that they were told were "illegal", to make a change.
Rosa Park knew what she was doing was "illegal".. but she did it anyway.
If Lee Moak were to come out tomorrow and tell every pilot group to Fly The Contract, and tell every pilot group that are in prolonged contract negotiations- plan on not going to work on Nov 6, 2012.. he might go to jail but it would bring National/Gobal attention to the problem we face.
Again, you banned me from your Forum.. so be it. If I get banned here too, so be it. I will never change my view that at some point, you have to make a Stand and fight for what is right.
Motch
How many "United Pilots" have been banned from your Forum?
Anyways..
The point being- Yes, a Federal Judge told UAL/ALPA (years ago) "Fly the Contract" is illegal. How about ALPA and the UAL/ALPA team call Bull**** and try and fight that again!
If Flying the Contract is Illegal in our Country, and my National Union or Local Union doesn't want to fight that.. I have a problem with that.
I'm not comparing the plight of the Blacks in America in the 50's/60's.. or Womens Rights..
But, they stood up for an injustice and did things that they were told were "illegal", to make a change.
Rosa Park knew what she was doing was "illegal".. but she did it anyway.
If Lee Moak were to come out tomorrow and tell every pilot group to Fly The Contract, and tell every pilot group that are in prolonged contract negotiations- plan on not going to work on Nov 6, 2012.. he might go to jail but it would bring National/Gobal attention to the problem we face.
Again, you banned me from your Forum.. so be it. If I get banned here too, so be it. I will never change my view that at some point, you have to make a Stand and fight for what is right.
Motch
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