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horrido27 09-19-2012 10:02 AM

Didn't want to get back on here.. but this is a good/sore subject.

Since the "rumor" of $400 mil came out (LA FO REP, CAL Side).. I haven't met one person who was ok with it. Most have said NO.. some **** NO, and one said Maybe, depends on the rest...

Now, if it is 400 mil to be divided up between the two sides, it's a no brainer that it won't pass.
The numbers are in the 20 grand area for FO's and 40 grand for Capt's - if you were to divide by 11000, and then split the amount with 10 grand more for Capts, 10 grand less for FO's.

NO

Now.. something that "could" happen, if there was a miscommunication from the LA Rep-
If it is $400 mil for the CAL Side, and some unknown number for the UAL Side.. maybe the amount will work.

Lastly, UNLESS we know the exact amount by the time the TA is published, it's also a NO Vote. I will not be Voting YES on any JCBA that has "open" sections, or items "To Be Determined Later.." By ALPA or anyone else~

Just my .02cents!
Motch

Airhoss 09-19-2012 10:03 AM


"Bottom Third" = B3's or those hired in 2005 and on.
Or those hired 1995 and on depending on which outfit you are talking about.

SpecialTracking 09-19-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by liquid (Post 1263468)
"Bottom Third" = B3's or those hired in 2005 and on.

Thx.........

Ottopilot 09-19-2012 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by CheapFlyer (Post 1263462)
Double check your math.

Actually, it was a limitation on my calculator. It can't go that high. Sorry.

Kayco 09-19-2012 10:22 AM

[Quote] Now.. something that "could" happen, if there was a miscommunication from the LA Rep-
If it is $400 mil for the CAL Side, and some unknown number for the UAL Side.. maybe the amount will work [Quote]



Nope $400 mil for all. I've been a wait and see kinda guy but I think the fence sitting time is over. NO, ****** No, Hell No

Airhoss 09-19-2012 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=Kayco;1263483][Quote] Now.. something that "could" happen, if there was a miscommunication from the LA Rep-
If it is $400 mil for the CAL Side, and some unknown number for the UAL Side.. maybe the amount will work




Nope $400 mil for all. I've been a wait and see kinda guy but I think the fence sitting time is over. NO, ****** No, Hell No
And you know this for sure, for certain? And how?

SpecialTracking 09-19-2012 11:05 AM

It wouldn't surprise me, but our union leadership can't be this out of touch with the pilot group.

ewrbasedpilot 09-19-2012 11:10 AM

Still think the "retro/bonus/whatever" should be divided up in two amounts..............one for CA's and one for FO's............the same amount for ALL CA's and the same for ALL FO's. That way no one can complain about getting cheated. If they start dividing it up based on years/time/work rules/longevity/hours, etc., it could get REAL nasty, and then it will take forever to get this done. JMHO

APC225 09-19-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1263472)
Now, if it is 400 mil to be divided up between the two sides, it's a no brainer that it won't pass.

It'll pass. You offer $30k to pilots (who don't frequent these boards) just before Christmas and they'll take it, regardless of what they think they're owed.

syd111 09-19-2012 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1263516)
It'll pass. You offer $30k to pilots (who don't frequent these boards) just before Christmas and they'll take it, regardless of what they think they're owed.

Think your wrong on that apc, but vote how you want.


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