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Old 09-19-2012, 08:58 AM
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The $400 million that the company has offered up for retro, bonus whatever you want to call it will be going to arbitration to decide how to divy it up, as the MECs can't come up with a consensual formula. The L-UAL MEC has decided that their constituents should be afforded approximately 70% of the monies. Haven't seen their formula but if it comes out of arbitration like that the TA will be voted down by the L-CAL MEC. For those of you who claim to be in the know call your sources and verify.
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If it is not full retro it should be voted down anyhow. I would never let the mec's decide how to hand out the money.
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Why are they wasting their efforts and time on something that will not pass? Even if the UAL side received 100% I would vote against it.
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My bet it that it will favor senior pilots coming up on 65, trying to buy them off and throw B3s under the landing gear.

Scope change? NO!
Less than 100% Retro since ORIGINAL contract amendable dates? NO!!!!!
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:23 AM
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What is the proposal with the $400 mil?
I know it's too low, but what is the rumor about dividing it?

If captains got 60% and FO's 40% and I use 12000 pilots (6000 in each seat). I know these are rough numbers.

I show $4000.00 per captain and $2666 per FO.
What a joke. What an insult.

I'll take full retro. Prepare to vote no.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot View Post
What is the proposal with the $400 mil?
I know it's too low, but what is the rumor about dividing it?

If captains got 60% and FO's 40% and I use 12000 pilots (6000 in each seat). I know these are rough numbers.

I show $4000.00 per captain and $2666 per FO.
What a joke. What an insult.

I'll take full retro. Prepare to vote no.
The company was smart in that they wanted nothing to do with dividing it up. They can delay but not have to take the blame for it. Offer the monies then walk away. So the pilot groups must decide how to split it and the formula MUST be in the TA. Each group wants what they think is best for their group so no consensus will be reached will go to exhibited arbitration. Not a rumor by the way.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot View Post
I show $4000.00 per captain and $2666 per FO.
What a joke. What an insult.

I'll take full retro. Prepare to vote no.
Double check your math.
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What's a B3?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot View Post
What is the proposal with the $400 mil?
I know it's too low, but what is the rumor about dividing it?

If captains got 60% and FO's 40% and I use 12000 pilots (6000 in each seat). I know these are rough numbers.

I show $4000.00 per captain and $2666 per FO.
What a joke. What an insult.

I'll take full retro. Prepare to vote no.

You moved the decimel point over one too many.
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking View Post
What's a B3?

"Bottom Third" = B3's or those hired in 2005 and on.
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