A320

I think it is highly likely this whole $400 million rumor is just that. Some knucklehead FO rep wants the world to know he was privy to some nugget of knowledge that nobody else is when in fact he he isn't even in the circle of trust. At best he was given misinformation just to stir the pot

This is no different than all those guys claiming to have the "MEC chairman on the jumpseat" spreading stories.

A320

Regardless of the amount set aside, it better be based on w2.

SoCalGuy

Sage Syd....
Anything else matches that of pi$$ing in the wind.

Till then.

Kayco

Don't know if that was sarcasm or not but I have not heard anything on that.

horrido27

Actually, there is a difference.
If I claim to have had the MEC Chair on my jumpseat, it's easy to prove/disprove. And either way, it's just "My Opinion/Hearsay" as to what I post. I'm also a nobody (cue the wise ass remakes in.. 3, 2, 1- !LOL)
Now if a Rep make a statement, or tells someone something who then posts it on a board (with his real name..) and he also verifies that statement.. there is probably some truth to it. And he's a standing Rep who represents a certain amount of pilots~

IF the Rep was purposely given wrong info.. that is troublesome.
IF the Rep made it up,... that is troublesome.

I hope the LA FO Rep heard wrong or something has since changed concerning the $400 mil.. we will (hopefully) know next month.

Motch

PS> When I spoke to my Rep about this, she would neither confirm or deny the rumor (due to the "gag" order). Interestingly enough, the timeline did come up- she told me that the "Union" was hoping for a TA by mid Sept.. but that Oct might be more realistic.
Well, it's past mid Sept and no TA.
What do we do in mid Oct when we still don't have a TA and no timeline?

horrido27

And there in lies a major problem between the two Unions.
You want W2's to be the deciding factor?

As a CAL Pilot, I don't want that because it rewards the scumbags who picked up open time/VJM @150%.

Also.. what about the pay disparity between us and you guys?

What about the fact that we (CAL) have had a longer amendable date as compared to you guys?

What about the sacrifices you guys (UAL) did over the past decade to keep UAL afloat?

As you can see.. too many variables. But whatever "they" decide, it better be known to us all; with regards to the amount we get if we agree to whatever POS JCBA "they" try to sell us.

Motch

Airhoss

Talked to my LEC rep right after reading this. He confirmed that this is unconfirmed BS...

lets just wait and see, there isn't any sense in getting all riled up over these school yard rumors ....

Here is what I heard from a guy who's sister is dating a chief pilots cousin and she flew with a guy who sat next to a flight attendant who heard this from a guy who knows a bunch of stuff about this deal. "All of the retro is going to the LUAL side. The LCAL guys are going to be stapled to the bottom of the list and they will take a pay cut to boost the LUAL guys pay rates. Also all L-CAL guys are going to have to forfeit any future vacation time for the next five years so that the L-UAL guys can have more time off. And finally the L-CAL guys are going to have to pay for the L-UAL guys medical and dental benefits. Also the L-CAL guys are going to have carry not roll CARRY the L-UAL guys bags to and from the hotel van anytime they are ridding with them and that the L-UAL guys are getting better uniforms than the L-CAL guys."

You can take all of that to the bank because you read it on the internet..

Dave Fitzgerald

The longer this takes, the more expensive full retro gets, meaning W2. We can't leave it up to the MEC's, that is a mess, been there, done that.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, no signing bonus, full retro, or it's a no!

Wrsofked

Yeah, it's my fault lines are built to 85 plus hours through most of the year. WHO's naive?

Full and W2 retro or no vote.

SlickMachine

He is a captain, hence this ridiculousness.