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Old 10-26-2012, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett View Post
That is awesome Lee! Miss flying with you guys and giving your sister a hard time in LGA!
My sister left United last year. Janet is now working at a F500 company making three times more money and better retirement and medical benefits.
Once the Global execs found out she was gone, a few of them made some phone calls and helped her out. It was a big deal as some of these accounts packed up and left United as well. The shares fiasco made it real difficult for the good CSRs to take care of the best customers. Something to do with making sure that CAL premiers were not disadvantaged over United global customers when it comes to upgrades. She was a victim of all the IT changes that came with shares...
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Actually it's a company "capitalist" dream come true to screw the working man what he's due.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:02 AM
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Question to you.....
If that preamble to the contract say as such, should the furloughs in our case be given 'skin in the game' by way of some type of pay-out just as Sonny pointed out above regarding DAL pilots that were recalled??
Yes. That would be the point.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:10 AM
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As long as the membership gets to vote on the distribution, and approve it, so be it. If the contract states we will sort it out later, "at the discretion of the MEC". No way. UAL side has seen this movie before.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe View Post
As long as the membership gets to vote on the distribution, and approve it, so be it. If the contract states we will sort it out later, "at the discretion of the MEC". No way. UAL side has seen this movie before.
That is germane to L-CAL too......
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:43 AM
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The distribution, if it can't be worked out, has to go to binding arbitration per the ALPA regulations. This was put into place to prevent another stove piped job like we had at UAL 10 years ago. The real issue is how does JP see this playing out?
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:09 AM
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The distribution, if it can't be worked out, has to go to binding arbitration per the ALPA regulations. This was put into place to prevent another stove piped job like we had at UAL 10 years ago. The real issue is how does JP see this playing out?
Both MEC's are in PHX today to vote on how to determine the signing bonus to be arbitrated and final decision NLT 5 nov. Also the same date that the TA is supposedly complete.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:38 PM
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RETRO PAY is NOT a Signing bonus or Lump sum.

Retropay is the difference between the pay rate of the new contract and the pay rate of the old contract, calculated from the effective date of the new contract back to the amenable date of the old contract.
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Originally Posted by apc1432 View Post
RETRO PAY is NOT a Signing bonus or Lump sum.

Retropay is the difference between the pay rate of the new contract and the pay rate of the old contract, calculated from the effective date of the new contract back to the amenable date of the old contract.
Can I get an AMEN? Anyone who votes for an agreement that doesn't include 100% retro is a sap and is willing to sell their skills for pennies on the dollar. 3-4 years this time will equal 4-5 next.
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Originally Posted by oldmako View Post
Can I get an AMEN? Anyone who votes for an agreement that doesn't include 100% retro is a sap and is willing to sell their skills for pennies on the dollar. 3-4 years this time will equal 4-5 next.
Amen my brother. Rule #1 says never negotiate with terrorists. I know James knows why.
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