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Old 09-21-2012 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
This has got to be one of the stupidest proposals i've heard yet. Base the retro on W-2?! It favors line holders, so those that are more senior. Also it favors Scabs: which I include those picking up trips while guys are on furlough or junior manning where they get additional hours of credit pay for taking a leg, turn, or trip. You must be one of these guys. Don't give me this garbage that reserve guys or low-time guys will be "rewarded" for getting an equal retro check. You are clueless.
Ya just gootta respect those who toss the word scab around for everything you don't agree with. You need to go back and re-read the definition of a scab. ALPA has lots of experience with coming up with convoluted schemes to distribute money and they will be working overtime with this one. However it is distributed, these forums will be debating it until the end of time - which I think is December 21, 2012
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Old 09-21-2012 | 04:55 AM
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Scabs live on both sides of the fence in this neighborhood.
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Old 09-21-2012 | 05:03 AM
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Y'all that think reserve guys have been slacking because they "only" make 70 hours should take turn or two during the summer and the holidays and tell me what you think about the life style. I've been STUCK on reserve for the last 4 going on 5 years. It's not fun.
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Old 09-21-2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
This has got to be one of the stupidest proposals i've heard yet. Base the retro on W-2?! It favors line holders, so those that are more senior. Also it favors Scabs: which I include those picking up trips while guys are on furlough or junior manning where they get additional hours of credit pay for taking a leg, turn, or trip. You must be one of these guys. Don't give me this garbage that reserve guys or low-time guys will be "rewarded" for getting an equal retro check. You are clueless.
It's RETRO, that's what it means. The difference between what u made vs what u would of made if you had a contract at your amendable date. If you want to call it a bonus, that's fine, but most are fighting for what they are OWED! Has to come from W2
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Old 09-21-2012 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thor2j
It's RETRO, that's what it means. The difference between what u made vs what u would of made if you had a contract at your amendable date. If you want to call it a bonus, that's fine, but most are fighting for what they are OWED! Has to come from W2
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Old 09-21-2012 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thor2j
It's RETRO, that's what it means. The difference between what u made vs what u would of made if you had a contract at your amendable date. If you want to call it a bonus, that's fine, but most are fighting for what they are OWED! Has to come from W2
Nothing like REWARDING the behavior of the folks who do their darndest to SCREW everyone else. I know of several B777 FO's whose earnings would make my W-2 look like peanuts and I'll bet you have NO idea who works harder. (Hint, it's not a guy sitting in FC and a bunk for 98% of a flight.) I guess because they've learned to "game" the system and hurt their fellow pilots, they should be rewarded handsomely for that. No wonder we're in the shape we are.
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Old 09-21-2012 | 06:29 AM
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Smartest, most reasonable yet.
For who? The time wh*res? The VJM'ing wh*res? Yep, let's reward them more for their unacceptable behavior. That'll certainly show'em, won't it?
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Old 09-21-2012 | 06:33 AM
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Redistribution of wealth argument. This is great!
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Old 09-21-2012 | 06:55 AM
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Whatever its called, James wants a mess of it.

As mentioned above, retro is short for retroactive. It's the pay one earned after the amendable date of the last contract. The OT over achievers will do better than the guys on reserve. It is what it is and isn't worth arguing about. If YOU flew 85 hours per month per year you'd feel the same way. As for me, its 70 hrs month after month in indentured servitude to mother united.

But we can argue all day about a distribution of equity or a signing bonus. This place will implode if ALPA screws it up.
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Old 09-21-2012 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by A320
I think it is highly likely this whole $400 million rumor is just that. Some knucklehead FO rep wants the world to know he was privy to some nugget of knowledge that nobody else is when in fact he he isn't even in the circle of trust. At best he was given misinformation just to stir the pot

This is no different than all those guys claiming to have the "MEC chairman on the jumpseat" spreading stories.
Wanna bet? That "knucklehead FO rep" is probably one of the finest Union guys serving on the CAL MEC and you should be thanking him for the job that he's been doing. He hasn't been blindly following Pied Piper Pierce like the rest of the lemmings on the MEC have.
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