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11-11-2012 | 05:53 PM
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Sure they can. I'm in my 5th year and have held NYC 73N FO for several years. CVG & ATL recently as well. The most junior NYC 73N FO is a 10/2010 hire. He held that position with less then 2 years @ the company.
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11-11-2012 | 06:43 PM
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11-11-2012 | 06:48 PM
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11-11-2012 | 06:53 PM
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11-11-2012 | 07:04 PM
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No s&@! Your scope clause in your lofty contract is worthless. Do u ever look around at LCAL hubs and see any 70 seaters? Might look for a clue! Thought I was clear in my last. LUAL. You're right, I never would have been considered at CAL.
11-11-2012 | 09:25 PM
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11-12-2012 | 12:58 AM
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UAL flights, not CAL flights. Two different contracts. The union is keeping watch o the scope. Flights have been restricted due to scope. Again, you are wrong.
11-12-2012 | 01:41 AM
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Of course you will have those 10+ year captains on RJs who will hold on tight to their job, but that isn't most of us.
11-12-2012 | 03:35 AM
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If true, this is an absolute EPIC FAIL
Zero stock (DALPA 5%=$37K/pilot, APA 13.5% = $100K)
$400M retro pay – avg. $34,000/pilot (DALPA: 2 on-time contracts = 100% retro)
UALPA determine allocation of L-UAL’s $225M retro cut (2/3 on eff date, 1/3 @ SLI)
Pay bands
• A380
• 747, A350, 777, 787, 767-400
• 767-300, 767-200, 757-300
• 757-200, 737-900/800, A320/321
• 737-700/500, A319
• EMB-190
Pay rates
• 2013: DAL - 8.5%
• 2014: DAL - 3%
• 2015: DAL - 3%
• 2016: DAL + 0%
• 2017: DAL + 3% (3% pay raise the day before the amendable date)
Amendable 1/1/17 (4-year CBA) (DALPA amendable 1/1/16 (3.5-year CBA))
16% B/C plan + frozen CAL A-plan (DALPA 15% B/C plan + frozen NW A-plan)
Premium pay for forced junior manning
Voluntary movable domestic RDOs for higher guarantee
Minimum 5 hours credit time/calendar day
Same Int’l override as DALPA
Long-term disability plan: pilot-financed $1-2/flight hour, max $97,000/year benefit
CAL PBS system, UA trip-trading system
CAL vacation system
3.25 hours/vacation day
2 less days of vacation for most senior pilots
No more credit time for vacation drops
3/3.25 hours/training day (<5/>5 day training period)
Significant concessions on hotel rights from UA CBA
New alt. dispute resolution philosophy of “mutually agree,” “company discretion”
Traditional medical plan: UA/CAL hybrid w/ higher out of pocket pilot expenses
HMO plans suffer a significant increase in out of pocket pilot cost
Trip rigs: 4 to 1 now & 3.5 to 1 on 1/1/14 which DALPA has had for years
Scope: similar to DALPA, arguably a little more restrictive on SJs
UAX flies SJs up to 88,000 lbs MTOGW (DALPA up to 223 76 seat SJs, 450 ttl)
UAX EMB-175s & CRJ-900 w/ 76 seats
$400M retro pay – avg. $34,000/pilot (DALPA: 2 on-time contracts = 100% retro)
UALPA determine allocation of L-UAL’s $225M retro cut (2/3 on eff date, 1/3 @ SLI)
Pay bands
• A380
• 747, A350, 777, 787, 767-400
• 767-300, 767-200, 757-300
• 757-200, 737-900/800, A320/321
• 737-700/500, A319
• EMB-190
Pay rates
• 2013: DAL - 8.5%
• 2014: DAL - 3%
• 2015: DAL - 3%
• 2016: DAL + 0%
• 2017: DAL + 3% (3% pay raise the day before the amendable date)
Amendable 1/1/17 (4-year CBA) (DALPA amendable 1/1/16 (3.5-year CBA))
16% B/C plan + frozen CAL A-plan (DALPA 15% B/C plan + frozen NW A-plan)
Premium pay for forced junior manning
Voluntary movable domestic RDOs for higher guarantee
Minimum 5 hours credit time/calendar day
Same Int’l override as DALPA
Long-term disability plan: pilot-financed $1-2/flight hour, max $97,000/year benefit
CAL PBS system, UA trip-trading system
CAL vacation system
3.25 hours/vacation day
2 less days of vacation for most senior pilots
No more credit time for vacation drops
3/3.25 hours/training day (<5/>5 day training period)
Significant concessions on hotel rights from UA CBA
New alt. dispute resolution philosophy of “mutually agree,” “company discretion”
Traditional medical plan: UA/CAL hybrid w/ higher out of pocket pilot expenses
HMO plans suffer a significant increase in out of pocket pilot cost
Trip rigs: 4 to 1 now & 3.5 to 1 on 1/1/14 which DALPA has had for years
Scope: similar to DALPA, arguably a little more restrictive on SJs
UAX flies SJs up to 88,000 lbs MTOGW (DALPA up to 223 76 seat SJs, 450 ttl)
UAX EMB-175s & CRJ-900 w/ 76 seats
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