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11-15-2012 | 07:42 AM

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syd111

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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh

It's the nature of the beast. There are no short legs on widebody airplanes like there were in the 1970s. Every time you strap that thing on you're going for a 13-16 hour ride.

Simply not true ord 777 flying has den trips iad trips and so on. Not many but they are out there. In fact in nov there has been a 3 day den trip worth10:35, yep it's in open flying much of the time. Hnl 8-9

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11-15-2012 | 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh

It's the nature of the beast. There are no short legs on widebody airplanes like there were in the 1970s. Every time you strap that thing on you're going for a 13-16 hour ride.

EWR-LHR, FRA, MUC are all 8 hourish rides, EWR-TLV 10-12.

11-15-2012 | 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EWR73FO

Isn't it 3:15 minutes but 3.25 hours now?

Yes...and

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3:15 equals 3.25 hrs

Yes, at least when I learned it in school.

11-15-2012 | 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

I have got to change airlines! Your widebody guys ALL fly 25 hour plus 3 day trips???? Thats amazing schedules. Can't be done domestic and there are only a few international routes over 12 doubled crewed that might do that. Do you have incredible duty rigs for the widebodies or is there something else I am missing that allows them ALL such great trips?

no duty rigs.

International wide body trips are usually very productive.

Newark to Naraita, Houston to Narita, Telaviv, Bombay, Delhi, China,

All that stuff is all you do when you get on the B777.

11-15-2012 | 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

At some point we likely all aspire to fly wide body airplanes on premium routes. I have been on the B777 for six years and I love it. I used to dread going to work as I burned out something awful doing domestic.

When you go long haul two things will happen. YOu will value your time because finally you get paid for your time and your time away from base is minimized, and you start to get very protective of your time off.

They are long - long days, but to me it is worth it. I like being productive with my time and I like to have my time off when I am done with a long trip.

11-15-2012 | 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal

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When you go long haul two things will happen. YOu will value your time because finally you get paid for your time and your time away from base is minimized, and you start to get very protective of your time off.

... I like being productive with my time and I like to have my time off when I am done with a long trip.

So can we count on your NO vote because the domestic slobs, especially those on reserve will have NO time free. They can steal a day off any time they want and reschedule you at will. Fly you into days off, VACA....whatever.

Thanks for your support!

12 years and on res! FTP

11-15-2012 | 05:00 PM

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On the sUAL side, a vacation drop pays full credit, borrowing from next year's vacation. Instead of taking annual vacation at 2.8hrs/day, I can now drop a 7:30 one-day turn and be paid the full 7:30. For this drop, I use one vacation day from next year. In the TA, each of next year's vacation days are worth only 3.25. To drop this same one-day turn, they will still pay me 7:30, but they will take away 2.31 vacation days from next year. (7.5 / 3.25 = 2.31). ....and the guys over 25 years had their annual vacation reduced from 44 days to 42.