Allegedly, we'll be voting on the TA in a couple weeks. I'm actually surprised this hasn't been posted already.

 

APC polls are very scientific. The DAL TA APC poll was spot on!....... Oh wait....

 

Trip,

You don't work here. Why are you worried about it?

 

Maybe he knows he may never also ...

 

I will be voting no as I previouslt stated just because of the pathetic retro, making it even easier for the no vote is how our furloughed pilots are being treated and of course the pay isn't even at dal rates.

That being said I will be suprised if it doesn't pass.

I expect that many 320 guys will vote yes for the pay reasons, I expect many cal will vote yes because of the expected windfall in seniority, some older guys yes to take what they think they can get from pathetic retro, some yes because they are weak, some yes at both properties because what they have done in the past, some yes after the heavy selling from our pathetic leaders. It looks like an easy pass. The company knows all the splits and how weak we are as a group. They know what areas they had to offer and they know how easy our negotiating team was mulipulated to get those few things so they could sell this pos to enough pilots.

Hey, I am not trying to just **** everyone off and I sure hope I am proved wrong in a big way, but as you walk through ops and ride the bus and the vans and I hear pilots talking like they are already spending what the pay raise is, like this is a done deal and how quiet they get when you bring up how bad this ta is, that all tells me plenty.

Go a head prove me wrong!

 

The dissenting reps are spot on. I noticed much of what they noticed, but they did a better job.

I wish they could have talked about the 900 range on those so called RJ's.

 

All this complaining about the company screwing us - after the way this has played out, I wouldn't be surprised if the only ones who screwed us was both our MEC's. 2.5 years of negotiation delays being blamed on the company. We get an AIP? It takes our idiot leaders 3 months to come up with the most confusing language I have ever seen? Maybe it took our union reps this long to come to an AIP! we problably got Delta minus 1 year and less retro because our childish infighting cost the company a bunch of time.

I am vol furlough so I don't get to vote. But if I did I would vote yes if only to get this silliness over, and move forward in life. Until we become one WE are our own worst enemy.

95 hire vol furlough

 

The DAL poll ended up 58% no 34% yes.

 

LOA 25 kills it for me. There is no way I can vote yes on an agreement that thumps our furloughees and in turn heavily and unfairly tilts the ISL in CAL's favor.

 

I had problems with that to. Then, I talked to those that were there and had them explain it to me. Go to a road show before making a decision.