Enough Already!
 

I'm at work at the Double Tree SFO bar on my iPhone, and I just can't stand it. I wish Unicorn's were real and cheeseburgers were healthy but the reality is we live in a world of cut throat competition. I get the fact that CAL pilots suddenly feel like king of the hill and expect to be treated as such and I get that UAL '99 hires feel wronged , BUT that does not excuse the gross misrepresentations flooding this forum. There are a few minor "turds" but overall this contract is industry leading and that's a fact. Pick any single issue and I will do my best to respond.

Pay: no meaningful difference when viewed by the general public especially if you look at profit sharing.

Retro: Largest retro award in history. Bankruptcy exit is paid in equity and is a whole different animal.

Scope: by far the most misunderstood aspect. Delta and United already gave this one away but the scope provisions are TIGHTER now than previously. Period. If you want to argue this you need to start by answering the question how many 70 seat Q400s are allowed under the current contract and how many are allowed if the TA passes.

Joe Peck
IADFO

QWL: I get 5 days more vacation.

Reassignment: CAL had zero nada no restrictions now they have a limit and extra pay.

Rest Seats: CAL had nothing. Now they get curtained private lie flat beds

What you said! Prepare yourself for the onslaught of hyperbole! 5 hrs/day pay! No more 12 days off 70 hour months. 3.25% 401K increase for s-Cal. Pay increase happens NOW, vs "who knows when"(time value of $$). Take the $$ in Bob Barkers hand instead of door number 2. Training pay increase. Vacation pay increase. Reserve min guarantee bump. 13 days off on reserve in a 31 day month. S-UAL PI/LCA pay improvements. S-CAL over 65 instructors get the boot. More line pilots can be instructors. Yes,there are some bad points, but overall a large improvement.

Keep drinking at the bar..you are gonna need to hang on to that buzz and savor that feeling when you are sitting airport reserve with the FA's and when they roll your off days( does ANY other real airline do that?)..but it is nice to know that the Double tree serves kool aid.:confused:

How do you feel about Field Standby for no pay?

How do you feel about the Company getting 90 Seats ... but wait ... they will only put 76 seats in them. Isn't this the same thing that pi$$ed everyone off in the Whiteford letter?

This JCBA is a POS and I will be voting "NO." I hope the UCAL guys overwhelmingly vote no to offset my fellow UAL pilots that are afraid of "what might happen" if this goes down.

Not if you are on Reserve. The reserve's get royally screwed in this POS!

On the sUAL side, a vacation drop pays full credit, borrowing from next year's vacation. Instead of taking annual vacation at 2.8hrs/day, I can now drop a 7:30 one-day turn and be paid the full 7:30. For this drop, I use one vacation day from next year. In the TA, each of next year's vacation days are worth only 3.25. To drop this same one-day turn, they will still pay me 7:30, but they will take away 2.31 vacation days from next year. (7.5 / 3.25 = 2.31). ....and the guys over 25 years had their annual vacation reduced from 44 days to 42.

Again, this just your opinion and other LCAL and LUAL are entitled to their opinion. You don't like that, fine.

Have you seen the response from the 4 LCAL LEC reps that voted no? If not you might want to. Just because we don't vote the way you think we should does not make us less informed or less concerned.

If you and others think this is a good TA then vote for it. But others like me think this is not a good TA and will vote against it. To not stand for what you think is right is wrong.