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intrepidcv11 03-21-2013 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1376568)
Disclaimer: I'm not one to seek the greener grass as it seems to be cyclical---today's stagnation is tomorrow's rocket ship and vise versa.

That said, I would not bet my carreer on "growth" airplanes at UCH--at least not in the short term. Both sCAL and sUAL have fewer airframes than the day the merger was announced and last week our CEO told an investor conference that UCH's strategy is strict capacity discipline.

The current hiring is a direct result of the new pilot contract, FAR 117, and retirements. Once the "bubble" of the first two is popped only retirements will remain to fuel hiring absent a change in corporate strategy

IMHO, if seniority is a wash and QOL is improved it might be something to consider but I personally would only approach the issue very cautiously with both eyes wide open.
With numbnuts like all of us continuously unzipping our collective scope fly, I am skeptical any legacy will grow anytime soon unless another falters. As much as I despise Unical and particularly Flight Ops, its still a career position. I knew far to many that thought seniority and QOL at a regional was worth it. Needless to say the tune has changed. I'll spare us all the lesson we know about picking an house and riding the wave. For that reason I have gritted my teeth and helped friends get on here. Like it or not this is a well desired job.

A320 03-22-2013 03:21 AM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1375848)
He has, and he is.

Grenades NEED to be tossed at this place. The acquiescence and apathy among the Stepford pilots is sickening. Keep it up Rev!
Who are the Stepford Pilots?

SpecialTracking 03-22-2013 04:21 AM
Originally Posted by A320 (Post 1377250)
Who are the Stepford Pilots?
For example,

http://www.airtransparency.com/stora...=1284517980273

It is a mindset.

APC225 03-22-2013 11:19 AM
The Gap. Closing or opening?
 
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that I will be retiring effective April 30. I have been involved in the airlines since starting at TWA in 1975. I had the good fortune of helping to start Air Berlin and People Express, as well as being at Continental to assist it going from “worst to first.” However, even with all those great experiences, the past three years at United have been the best. I want to thank all of you for the great job you do every day. I know that I am retiring from the best airline, with the best pilots in the world. Please value what you have built here and always fly safe.
Howard Attarian will be taking over Flight Operations after I retire. As you know, he has been Vice President Flight Operations at United since 2008 and will do a great job leading the division. Please join me in congratulating Howard and supporting him in his new role.
Again, thanks to all of you.
Captain Fred Abbott

JoePatroni 03-22-2013 11:21 AM
Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1377521)
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that I will be retiring effective April 30. I have been involved in the airlines since starting at TWA in 1975. I had the good fortune of helping to start Air Berlin and People Express, as well as being at Continental to assist it going from “worst to first.” However, even with all those great experiences, the past three years at United have been the best. I want to thank all of you for the great job you do every day. I know that I am retiring from the best airline, with the best pilots in the world. Please value what you have built here and always fly safe.
Howard Attarian will be taking over Flight Operations after I retire. As you know, he has been Vice President Flight Operations at United since 2008 and will do a great job leading the division. Please join me in congratulating Howard and supporting him in his new role.
Again, thanks to all of you.
Captain Fred Abbott
AMF, take your PE mentality with you.

Poppy 03-22-2013 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 1377522)
AMF, take your PE mentality with you.
Boy, I must have really missed something! What a non-sequitur.

JoePatroni 03-22-2013 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 1377526)
Boy, I must have really missed something! What a non-sequitur.
Fred Abbott and his PE low-cost mentality has been THE biggest impediment in improving ANYTHING at Continental. Good riddance.

EWR73FO 03-22-2013 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 1377552)
Fred Abbott and his PE low-cost mentality has been THE biggest impediment in improving ANYTHING at Continental. Good riddance.
Don't forget the friends of Fred tools. Without Fred, maybe the door will hit them in the arse on the way out too. No more friends.

JoePatroni 03-22-2013 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by EWR73FO (Post 1377617)
Don't forget the friends of Fred tools. Without Fred, maybe the door will hit them in the arse on the way out too. No more friends.
His little pals JM and TS may be getting a little nervous, they would get such a nice reception if they were forced to fly the line again.


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