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SpecialTracking 04-03-2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1383904)
1. An Air Line Pilot will keep uppermost in his mind that the safety, comfort, and well-being of the passengers who entrust their lives to him are his first and greatest responsibility.
a. He will never permit external pressures or personal desires to influence his judgment, nor will he knowingly do anything that could jeopardize flight safety.
b. He will remember that an act of omission can be as hazardous as a deliberate act of commission, and he will not neglect any detail that contributes to the safety of his flight, or perform any operation in a negligent or careless manner.
c. Consistent with flight safety, he will at all times operate his aircraft in a manner that will contribute to the comfort, peace of mind, and well-being of his passengers, instilling in them trust in him and the airline he represents.
d. Once he has discharged his primary responsibility for the safety and comfort of his passengers, he will remember that they depend upon him to do all possible to deliver them to their destination at the scheduled time.
e. If disaster should strike, he will take whatever action he deems necessary to protect the lives of his passengers and crew.
2. An Air Line Pilot will faithfully discharge the duty he owes the airline that employs him and whose salary makes possible his way of life.
a. He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
b. He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will resist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
c. He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
d. He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
e. He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
f. He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
g. He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.

What is the reason for posting this?

XHooker 04-03-2013 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1384242)
Simply inquire if your meal has been boarded as YOU board the plane. If the answer is in the neg make ONE call to ops to check on catering. If they drop the ball stroll into the terminal and secure food. Ignore watch and CSR. Remember to keep your receipt.

The more guys do this, the sooner the problem goes away.

It really is that simple, folks.

Poppy 04-05-2013 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1384569)
Have you ever heard of hypoglycemia?

Yes I have! A 10 minute stroll through the terminal and I can get adequate nutrition for all but the really long flights.

FURTHER, if you will go back to the beginning, this all started over, and my answer directly dealt with a caterer who misread the catering order, NOT willful non-compliance by the company. My point simply is that there is a difference, one that many on this board are either too stubborn, or too dense to fathom.

Poppy 04-05-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Staller (Post 1384277)
Maybe he did in 83' and doesn't want to say.

Keyboard Kommando----knows nothing, has no facts, has no knowledge, has no brain, probably has no balls, but is willing to make an accusation based on nothing. What a guy-----man I really want to fly with a class act such as yourself!

Staller 04-05-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 1385638)
Keyboard Kommando----knows nothing, has no facts, has no knowledge, has no brain, probably has no balls, but is willing to make an accusation based on nothing. What a guy-----man I really want to fly with a class act such as yourself!

You must be a joy to be around - give away contract because you can't say no to a mechanic or gate agent - talk about growing a pair. Even as bad as the contract is you don't have a right to give it away and anybody flying with you should force you to follow the contract. So be it or get off my airplane - scrub.

SpecialTracking 04-06-2013 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 1385634)
Yes I have! A 10 minute stroll through the terminal and I can get adequate nutrition for all but the really long flights.

FURTHER, if you will go back to the beginning, this all started over, and my answer directly dealt with a caterer who misread the catering order, NOT willful non-compliance by the company. My point simply is that there is a difference, one that many on this board are either too stubborn, or too dense to fathom.


The caterer, company, or the farmer who produced the grain for my cereal, it does not matter who makes the mistake. If the meal is not boarded for the appropriate flight, then the solution is simple like OldMako says. Call ops and ask for the caterers to bring appropriate meal. When they refuse, you simply walk off the plane and secure your own food. It might take 10 minutes to secure food, it might take 30. I am not as you say "promulgating the notion that we are arrogant, egotistical, self-centered p....s----" but rather taking care of my crew assuring that their proper nutrition is met so the flight can operate safely. Safety of the flight is more important than what you term "miss connects, cruises, weddings, funerals, one last visit with a dying family member, whatever."

Pilotbiffster 04-11-2013 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1384242)
Much urine, many fans.

Simply inquire if your meal has been boarded as YOU board the plane. If the answer is in the neg make ONE call to ops to check on catering. If they drop the ball stroll into the terminal and secure food. Ignore watch and CSR. Remember to keep your receipt.

The more guys do this, the sooner the problem goes away.

Or just wait till your destination and expense a nice surf and turf at the hotel :).


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