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#31
I'm confident you are sincere in this belief. Wadr, how do you think we can make this the best or worst airline overriding the action of management? Aside from showing up for work, flying safe, and treating people like human beings, what else do you sincerely think we can do?
MGT can affect the bottom line more in either direction drastically. Pilots can only have a large effect to the bottom line if an airframe goes down on their watch.
Be safe.
#32
Maybe L-UAL could learn a thing or two from L-CAL:
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!
#33
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From: B737 /FO
Don't even get me started on limited liability, the root cause of undermining true free market.
It would be a difficult transition, but the product would be better and you'd probably have a much better job and dignity to go with it.
#35
Maybe L-UAL could learn a thing or two from L-CAL:
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!

United has the same list, just as long, for giving away free air miles to companies that rate other companies.
#36
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From: B737 /FO
Wish I could edit that post on my phone. Last line sounded like a personal attack. When I mean "you," I mean as a collective whole.
Many Asian carriers can't staff their airlines. That's why there are contract jobs. They'd probably pay you well in the first year. Most of the people on this thread have a vast amount of expertise that would go over well and be recognized.
Everyone here knows an Asian carrier takeover will not likely happen. But the point is to draw contrast.
Many Asian carriers can't staff their airlines. That's why there are contract jobs. They'd probably pay you well in the first year. Most of the people on this thread have a vast amount of expertise that would go over well and be recognized.
Everyone here knows an Asian carrier takeover will not likely happen. But the point is to draw contrast.
#37
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Maybe L-UAL could learn a thing or two from L-CAL:
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!

Great list, thanks for posting.
#38
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You're kidding right? Go ahead and do some research and give us the list and years pre Merger UAL won all these acculades so we can compare?
#39
You can have the award, I'll take the $$.
#40
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Maybe L-UAL could learn a thing or two from L-CAL:
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!
No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline; Fortune Magazine (20042009)
No. 1 Most Admired U.S. Airline; Fortune Magazine (20062007, 2010)
No. 1 Greenest U.S. Airline; Greenopia (2009)
No. 1 Pet-Friendly Airline; PetFinder.org (2009)
Best Executive/Business Class; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032007, 2009)
Best Airline Based in North America; OAG Airline of the Year Awards (20032009)
Best U.S. Carrier Trans-Atlantic and Trans-Pacific Business Class; Condι Nast Traveler (19992006)
Best Airline for North American Travel; Business Traveler Magazine (20062009)
Best Large Domestic Airline (Premium Seating); Zagat Airline Survey(2008)
Best Value for the Money (International); Zagat Airline Survey (2009)
Highest-Ranked Network Airline; J.D. Power and Associates (2007)
Airline of the Year; OAG (20042005)
Let the flames begin!

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