Originally Posted by Moombabeach (Post 1432323)

The company wanted to give profit sharing to all employees to save face and avoid embarrassing negative press. Company check airmen were telling our management that the airline would experience massive cancellations on feb 14, because CAL pilots would be sick en mass on profit sharing day if they were not included. It was just a decision to include ALL employee groups and not shaft the CAL pilot group from money that they earned, like ALL other United employees. Just a business decision on their part, no vast conspiracy. Would you as a CAL pilot have shown up to work when all other employees were handed profit sharing??? I wouldn't. They knew that, settled a grievance and moved on. You should move on too ......

Originally Posted by Moombabeach (Post 1432323)

Would you as a CAL pilot have shown up to work when all other employees were handed profit sharing??? I wouldn't.

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1432373)

There are a lot of pilots who agree with you. And that was precisely the point. It should have played out as you describe. It may have greatly accelerated the JCBA process. Profit sharing broke the fever, so to speak, for LCAL pilots and then they claimed an agreement months before it was done. Got them through the summer. And here we are still languishing through another summer under C'02 pending implementation of "joint CMS" and "Joint Implemenation Team."

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1432397)

Profit sharing expired in your contract. Now you are endorsing a job action to recoup what was not legally yours to begin with?

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1432421)

No job action, but a loss of enthusiasm for sure.

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1432421)

No job action, but a loss of enthusiasm for sure. And it wouldn't be to recoup what we didn't negotiate, it would be to say negotiate in good faith. I'd rather have more $ per month than $3000 once.

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1432464)

You agreed with his tenet of not showing up for work when other employees received profit sharing. I showed up for work after I was told that my salary would not be raised to a commensurate level with my cal counterparts. That was after one of your own said he would delay the jcba indefinitely unless he got what he wanted. Good faith? Like I said, we have sunk into a morass.

Not a job action you say? Best of luck explaining a "loss of enthusiasm" to a federal judge.

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1432499)

It's a valid point. My point is that the company's perception was that LCAL pilots not having profit sharing could be problematic (whether it would have been or not) and this provided a rare point of leverage in the process. This leverage was mishandled in my opinion. I would have rather had the better pay and rules last summer.

Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 1432522)

Yet there was no perception that over 500 Captain bids being exclusive to the CAL side would be problematic.