SFO Guppy FO Unfilled
08-26-2013 | 02:35 PM
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Interesting.. did you guys expect that to happen?
Wonder why?
Also wonder how many LCAL pilots bid SFO 737 FO and didn't get it!
So, come next week and "The List" is out, guess they are going to have to have another SFO737 bid to fill those vacancies!
Just keeps getting more and more interesting~
Wonder why?
Also wonder how many LCAL pilots bid SFO 737 FO and didn't get it!
So, come next week and "The List" is out, guess they are going to have to have another SFO737 bid to fill those vacancies!
Just keeps getting more and more interesting~
08-26-2013 | 02:43 PM
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MONKEY STILL BATTING 1.000
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ua...ml#post1448498
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly
I can imagine the UA SFO 737 FO slots going unfilled.
Why would a ua 98-99 hire bid to fly FO with a co 2005 hire CA, before knowing the results of SLI?
Scratching my head on the point of this MOU.
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That won't happen for a couple of reasons. You should re-read the MOU. I think it's posted in one of the thread on this forum. I'm surprised the CAL side signed off on the MOU. They really didn't get anything from it.
08-26-2013 | 02:58 PM
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The junior LCAL 737 SFO Capt is listed as a July 05 hire.
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
08-26-2013 | 03:06 PM
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In the interest of accuracy, I'll quote myself again:
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So what are the reasons? What am I missing?
A 767 FO takes a pay cut. A 320 FO gets a $1 pay raise. Go to Houston to learn CAL systems from CAL instructors for what amounts to a lateral move. Are the 737s still in round dial config? Are they still doing Jepp revisions? When they combine the fleet after sli will the pilots be in different uniforms? (Except for the captain's five year pin vs. FO's 15 year pin). Since there will surely be more vacancies there after SLI why wouldn't a junior FO wait and see?
A 767 FO takes a pay cut. A 320 FO gets a $1 pay raise. Go to Houston to learn CAL systems from CAL instructors for what amounts to a lateral move. Are the 737s still in round dial config? Are they still doing Jepp revisions? When they combine the fleet after sli will the pilots be in different uniforms? (Except for the captain's five year pin vs. FO's 15 year pin). Since there will surely be more vacancies there after SLI why wouldn't a junior FO wait and see?
08-26-2013 | 03:10 PM
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The junior LCAL 737 SFO Capt is listed as a July 05 hire.
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
08-26-2013 | 03:54 PM
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The junior LCAL 737 SFO Capt is listed as a July 05 hire.
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
But I don't believe that the two crews will be mixing until some time after CMS. So for guys to not bid LUAL 737 FO because they don't want to fly with a 05 hire LCAL Capt is kinda funny.
Come SLI, I don't expect that any current LCAL Capt is going to be bumped down. Guys need to get over this stuff.
I routinely fly with Captains my age or even younger some times. So what?!
Getting back to LUAL 737 SFO FO Bid.. what happens next?!
With these 73's being part of the replacement LUAL 757 deal, it's strange that the slots went unfilled. Can/will LUAL now send out a recall bid with 737 SFO FO on it? Gotta think there has to be some of the 800ish pilots on furlough out there who would want it~
Motch
Everybody knows this a is a big ploy on your part, catering to CAL pilots based in EWR for votes in the current election. UAL has a reputation of not voting for and removing the few self-serving types that end up being elected to ALPA positions.
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