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socalflyboy 11-25-2013 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1528073)
That's too bad. It's such a great OLD airframe...they ought to put the old school mechanical ADI's and HSI's back in for old times sake. Remove the DME hold, the GS display, the FMC and the FD.....all of it! Maybe put the little windows back in, some young hot FA's with hats and 60's attitudes toward sexual mores and availability...

James, James, James....although I do pay my mortgage flying this so called guppy..I find it sooooo hypercritical when the lual types slam the shizzle out of this airplane ....then fall all over themselves bidding for it...you per se may not jump over, but look at the vacancy awards...it's almost funny. Btw, there has never been a dme hold since I've been on her ( 2007). And before you slam me with your 20 syllable words, I know she is NO 757...never will be. But she gets me 14k a month in the rt. seat and off to ogg/hnl for some frosty's with good scenery...

pilot64golfer 11-25-2013 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by socalflyboy (Post 1528176)
.I find it sooooo hypercritical when the lual types slam the shizzle out of this airplane ....then fall all over themselves bidding for it...

Which hasn't happened at all.......

Most LUAL bids since SLI have been for aircraft types UAL has prior to the merger (747, 777, 767, 757, and Airbus)

Hardly anyone has bid the guppy except a couple pilots who went from junior Airbus FOs to senior guppy FOs, since the guppy is a more junior airplane.

So a couple pilots bidding it does not equate to "falling all over themselves".

Of course the number of L-CAL pilots now in L-UAL bases is quite staggering.....

Benwarren 11-25-2013 11:48 PM

Not true. We have at least 6 UAL fo some of which are from the almighty whale coming to 737 in Guam

Mach93 11-26-2013 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1528180)
Which hasn't happened at all.......

Most LUAL bids since SLI have been for aircraft types UAL has prior to the merger (747, 777, 767, 757, and Airbus)

Hardly anyone has bid the guppy except a couple pilots who went from junior Airbus FOs to senior guppy FOs, since the guppy is a more junior airplane.

So a couple pilots bidding it does not equate to "falling all over themselves".

Of course the number of L-CAL pilots now in L-UAL bases is quite staggering.....

I guess you missed the 20 LUAL guys that bid off the 757/767 FO to 737 FO in ORD

APC225 11-26-2013 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1528180)
Hardly anyone has bid the guppy except a couple pilots who went from junior Airbus FOs to senior guppy FOs, since the guppy is a more junior airplane.

Hundreds of U-hires who by choosing to stay on the 737 despite vacancies on LUAL aircraft since ISL have essentially bid for it.

Free Flyer 11-26-2013 05:15 AM

And cue the infighting once again. This'll never get old. Thank goodness I only have 27 years until I retire!

oldmako 11-26-2013 05:26 AM

Well of course they're going to bid it. Our's were parked and Captains got bumped back to the right seat. Yours showed up and started flying trips in our domiciles with very very junior guys in the left seat. Meanwhile, we couldn't bid them and on and on and on thank you Jay Delay Pierce.

Now, we can and will bid them.

Just because I think the company made a gargantuan mistake by not buying more A320's doesn't mean that I don't think a guy who wants to upgrade should skip the Crap7. He just won't sleep as well.

Besides, I'm just poking fun with my razzing. I have several thou in the Guppy so I know a little about it, I just prefer every other airplane on the property. But if I had the HP to hold the left seat I'd certainly consider it. And I'd still whine every time I entered and left that scrawny old cockpit. You remember the old joke....The engines may have been shut down put the pilot is still whining.

As I was told on new hire IOE by Crusty, "As soon as you stop complaining they start taking stuff away".

You Guppy lovers are welcome to make fun of the Flying French Chain Saw or whatever other moniker you'd like to formulate. :D

PS At my pay rate, I'd have to earn 110 hours per month to pull down that kind of ching. Meanwhile, for the last several years I can't get more then 70 unless the planets all line up perfectly. The company is getting their financial a$$ kicked by DAL and yet continues to pay OT to the favored group while the other group steams. Just look at what he's doing right now with the Blue Team flight attendants! This Jeff fellow sure knows how to run an airline. Right into the sod. But that's another thread.:mad:

Have a nice Thanksgiving. Seriously. Frats and Kum by yah or however its spelled. Or spellt if you're Canadian. Or semi-illiterate.

jsled 11-26-2013 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by socalflyboy (Post 1528176)
I find it sooooo hypercritical when the lual types slam the shizzle out of this airplane ....then fall all over themselves bidding for it.

Well, he11z yea! The rate is soon to be $204/hr, and the position comes with a built in reserve cushion. You better belive blue guys will be bidding that little guppy. I'd fly a C172 for $204!!!!!!!!!!!!



But she gets me 14k a month in the rt. seat and off to ogg/hnl for some frosty's with good scenery...
Good. See, the merger worked out for you as well. United is/was the #1 airline from the mainland to HI. Enjoy the islands.

Sled

El10 11-26-2013 06:14 AM

I guess we so insecure that we cant bash the airplane we fly? Most people are not of single issue mentality. Just because the plane is the least favorite it makes there QOL better they should avoid it? Give me a break. Your right we should just shut up about the quarter million dollar machine that cant keep the toilet seat up, its the best. Sounds more like more of the "just shut up and follow along" CAL culture. Or is it more like "I dont like how loud it is so avoid it" like voting no to a CBA because the retro was not exactly what I thought it should be?

socalflyboy 11-26-2013 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1528284)
Well of course they're going to bid it. Our's were parked and Captains got bumped back to the right seat. Yours showed up and started flying trips in our domiciles with very very junior guys in the left seat. Meanwhile, we couldn't bid them and on and on and on thank you Jay Delay Pierce.

Now, we can and will bid them.

Just because I think the company made a gargantuan mistake by not buying more A320's doesn't mean that I don't think a guy who wants to upgrade should skip the Crap7. He just won't sleep as well.

Besides, I'm just poking fun with my razzing. I have several thou in the Guppy so I know a little about it, I just prefer every other airplane on the property. But if I had the HP to hold the left seat I'd certainly consider it. And I'd still whine every time I entered and left that scrawny old cockpit. You remember the old joke....The engines may have been shut down put the pilot is still whining.

As I was told on new hire IOE by Crusty, "As soon as you stop complaining they start taking stuff away".

You Guppy lovers are welcome to make fun of the Flying French Chain Saw or whatever other moniker you'd like to formulate. :D

PS At my pay rate, I'd have to earn 110 hours per month to pull down that kind of ching. Meanwhile, for the last several years I can't get more then 70 unless the planets all line up perfectly. The company is getting their financial a$$ kicked by DAL and yet continues to pay OT to the favored group while the other group steams. Just look at what he's doing right now with the Blue Team flight attendants! This Jeff fellow sure knows how to run an airline. Right into the sod. But that's another thread.:mad:

Have a nice Thanksgiving. Seriously. Frats and Kum by yah or however its spelled. Or spellt if you're Canadian. Or semi-illiterate.

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well sir! I think you and I know this is a public forum, and some things are said in the heat of the commando/ keyboard battle...I was glad to read your response this A.M., and I for one respect what you have written over the months..you seem to get it. It being that it is not so much us(black) vs them(blue), but more along the lines of us (12k+) vs. them(mgt.,or in our case, lack there of)...one cannot but be respectful in this profession, when one pilot stands up for his other less fortunate pilots...kinda rare these days.
As for the guppy...it is a guppy. I have and always will call it that, and yes, she is all I know....I was not trying to pick a battle with sir James...I'd spend countless hours with a thesaurus and dictionary trying to have a rebuttle. I hope you have a great turkey day and most importantly, that your off..


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