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Originally Posted by Snarge
(Post 1529997)
I think the issue is tables. CAL was too scab cheap to pay for briefing tables, chairs and space... So the blacks just packed into the WPAs..... it's like a regional airline.... with Triples.
Scabs: We'd like tables, maybe, if its ok, to do our long haul briefings. Please? CAL: Get to work biotch, be grateful for what you got. Scabs: Yes sir! Can I shine your shoes please sir? |
Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 1530045)
LUAL pilots have been based and flying out if Houston and Newark for years now and the facility's are the same as they have always been. When are you superior people (your words) gonna get some tables installed?
It will take time to do your job as well as ours.... Once of the battles we are dealing with is the mindset, "well we've done it this way at CAL for so long?? What do you mean we need to change...??" since you aren't aware of your own agency, I suggest patience. While you wait, why not work on the 'food out of the cooler' Red Cross Disaster Relief style cafeteria at TK South? We are professionals aren't we? Aren't we? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Moombabeach
(Post 1529940)
Why? We all can easily individually check wx, notams, and flight plan, and arriving in the airplane 60-45 minutes prior to push is plenty of time to brief, introduce yourself, set the tone / establish CRM and discuss fuel load etc., anything else is overkill.
All the other stuff is a throwback to the old days, things change, adapt. :-). I usually look over the flight plan and weather in my hotel two hours prior to show, no need for a group hug in the weather room. |
Originally Posted by Snarge
(Post 1530049)
Aren't we? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 1530064)
I am, with your attitude towards everything CAL on here I have serious doubts about you. Your attitude would make working with you much more unsafe then the lack of tables .
What is it about the CAL culture that you identify with? What is it you like? And when you do the 'math', do you get a net gain? |
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 1529972)
Uhhh...those 10 minutes are mine. The company shortened the report time for middle of the trip days. If you count, it takes up to 4 different computer sign ons to flight plan. I can usually count on Sabre computers locking up at least twice--after trying 3 different computers in the first place.
Most times, I can't even finish printing flight plans until 15 minutes into the duty day. Flight plan for maybe, 10 minutes if there aren't any questions for dispatch or MX. If we have to bump the fuel, plan on another 10 minutes. That leaves less than 20 minutes to get to the plane and pre-flight. I've had a bunch of gate agents lately want to close the door 15 minutes prior, and I've only been in the seat for 2-3 minutes. They are not happy. Talk to Jeff about the report times. If the company doesn't want to pay me to be there earlier, that's fine with me. As stated earlier, I don't do company work on my time. That is time negotiated by my union. If the company won't pay me, I don't work. That's not being unprofessional, it's called a job! :eek: |
Originally Posted by Snarge
(Post 1530067)
That would be your choice....
What is it about the CAL culture that you identify with? What is it you like? And when you do the 'math', do you get a net gain? We would probably agree on most things that should be included in a great culture, but the constant bashing of another group would not be it? |
Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 1529979)
True. And there's likely to be a lot more of this as the LUAL 75 fleet winds down.
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 1529972)
Uhhh...those 10 minutes are mine. The company shortened the report time for middle of the trip days. If you count, it takes up to 4 different computer sign ons to flight plan. I can usually count on Sabre computers locking up at least twice--after trying 3 different computers in the first place.
Most times, I can't even finish printing flight plans until 15 minutes into the duty day. Flight plan for maybe, 10 minutes if there aren't any questions for dispatch or MX. If we have to bump the fuel, plan on another 10 minutes. That leaves less than 20 minutes to get to the plane and pre-flight. I've had a bunch of gate agents lately want to close the door 15 minutes prior, and I've only been in the seat for 2-3 minutes. They are not happy. Talk to Jeff about the report times. If the company doesn't want to pay me to be there earlier, that's fine with me. As stated earlier, I don't do company work on my time. That is time negotiated by my union. If the company won't pay me, I don't work. That's not being unprofessional, it's called a job! :eek: |
Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 1530088)
There are things I like and don't like about both cultures. I hope to make the new merged culture a great one. It is hard thou with some of the attitudes. The I'm better than you attitude because you worked at a different company is divisive.
We would probably agree on most things that should be included in a great culture, but the constant bashing of another group would not be it? What specifically don't you like and do like about both cultures? |
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