LAX 747 displacements
12-18-2013, 04:08 AM
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The timing of this announcement seems to coincide with about 70-80 retirements. I highly doubt that someone flying the 747 to SYD will want to give up all the days off and QOL to take 737 Captain. Funny you say rightful place as it looks like most of not all could have already held captain yet chose not to. Not really sure what their rightful place is?
12-18-2013, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Toddnel
The timing of this announcement seems to coincide with about 70-80 retirements. I highly doubt that someone flying the 747 to SYD will want to give up all the days off and QOL to take 737 Captain. Funny you say rightful place as it looks like most of not all could have already held captain yet chose not to. Not really sure what their rightful place is?
12-18-2013, 07:39 AM
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Agreed. And, the 747 schedule/life style is so addictive, most will not bid the 737 and have to go back to work, let alone remember how to fly a plane. I suspect most will bump into SFO 747 or 777. The commute LAX-SFO is pretty good.
12-18-2013, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Toddnel
The timing of this announcement seems to coincide with about 70-80 retirements. I highly doubt that someone flying the 747 to SYD will want to give up all the days off and QOL to take 737 Captain. Funny you say rightful place as it looks like most of not all could have already held captain yet chose not to. Not really sure what their rightful place is?
But do not think that these 55 pilots are all retiring in the next 4 months. Maybe 2 of them. The rest....LOOK OUT BELOW...
Also LA 777 is getting big because the SEA pilots who bumped there, so that base will get a bump as well. All of them are in the top 6,000 on the seniority list, so they can go about anywhere.
12-18-2013, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
"Seems like a lot more than 5 will want to assume their rightful place. "
No you guys don't get how good the LAX SYD trip is, I guarantee you many will bid the 777 right seat just to chase it.
No you guys don't get how good the LAX SYD trip is, I guarantee you many will bid the 777 right seat just to chase it.
LAX-SYD F/O on the 400 is at the peak of the pyramid for QOL for L-UAL commuters. Many, if not most 400 F/O's are commuters, and have been here for a VERY long time.
Rightful place???? LAX 737 is not even a close second for a commuter, however DEN 737 might attract a few.
The company will be putting out snapshots, so we will soon see.
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12-18-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
70-80 retirements, but not in LA. So guys aren't going to fill seats in EWR or IAH or ORD. Theyare staying in LA. We've been through this game a few times since 2001. Big bumps, then big movement, then big bumps. So we've all played it and are good at it.
But do not think that these 55 pilots are all retiring in the next 4 months. Maybe 2 of them. The rest....LOOK OUT BELOW...
Also LA 777 is getting big because the SEA pilots who bumped there, so that base will get a bump as well. All of them are in the top 6,000 on the seniority list, so they can go about anywhere.
But do not think that these 55 pilots are all retiring in the next 4 months. Maybe 2 of them. The rest....LOOK OUT BELOW...
Also LA 777 is getting big because the SEA pilots who bumped there, so that base will get a bump as well. All of them are in the top 6,000 on the seniority list, so they can go about anywhere.
The playing field has changed dramatically. The company can ill-afford an all out bump-a-thon. Here is my prediction:
20 747 Capt bid wb Capt in either LAX or SFO
3 747 Cap bid Den 756 Capt.
2 bid LAX 737 CA.
747 FO's:
18 bid LAX 737 Capt.
20 bid LAX 777 FO
15 bid SFO 747 FO
7 bid SFO 777 FO
This distribution, coupled with retirements will not necessitate further bumps.
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