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APC225 01-02-2014 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Red97Vette (Post 1550993)
all trips in open time are "locked" ...whats the deal? when does the seniority sorting finish?

The open time page has been renamed Pilot Real Time Trades because this is the place you instantly transact a trade or pickup but only after 1100 the day prior. All trips that are not available for instant transactions are locked out in this screen. If you want to trade or pickup beyond next day it has to be done on the Seniority Trip Trade page.

Winterking 01-02-2014 09:24 AM

Known Issues With FIFO List and Short Call Assignments

As we previously informed you, there are known issues with the programming of the FIFO list which we expected would be addressed quickly by the company. Instead, the company has been unable to correct these errors, and the problems have increased dramatically.

Currently, the team of ALPA volunteers monitoring the crew desk and the rollout of FAR 117 is working on this and many other urgent issues to bring them into compliance with the UPA.

FIFO List
Due to programming errors and omissions, the FIFO list only looks at each pilot’s last flying assignment when sorting the list, which is incorrect. It should also consider non-flying assignments such as Short Call, Field Stand By, training, etc….and use the end time of those events when sorting the list. Further, because the FIFO list does not show each pilot’s last event, it is virtually impossible to verify that the list is correct. Unfortunately, the company did not provide the line schedulers with the tools needed to do their jobs properly and the incorrect list is the only list they have.

Despite what is being reported to some pilots, ALPA has not agreed to ANY relaxation of the contract. We have demanded that the programming be fixed ASAP.

If you believe you have been given a reserve assignment out of FIFO order, ask to speak to the FODM and for an order to fly per Section 21-S. Keep all records needed to support your claim and contact your local grievance representative.


I was converted two days in a row to SC. I thought that was incorrect. I'm glad the Union is on top of this. Whoever approved the way they programmed the new "Reserve Availability" screen on CCS should be fired. It is a total POS.

Airhoss 01-02-2014 01:14 PM

Got snagged for Sc today being number 8 on the multi day list non of the guys ahead me got assigned...

pilot64golfer 01-02-2014 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1551144)
Got snagged for Sc today being number 8 on the multi day list non of the guys ahead me got assigned...

Welcome to Continental. Where they routinely violate you and then force you to fight it later.

I'd file every report possible and then get an "order to fly" from the FODM.

Sounds like total BS to me.

socalflyboy 01-02-2014 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1551144)
Got snagged for Sc today being number 8 on the multi day list non of the guys ahead me got assigned...

Maybe FIFO issue?

voodiloquist 01-02-2014 03:57 PM

Call then NOW. They tried to hose me with a 0200SC when there should have been 8 dudes before me. I called them, they fixed it, SC gone. Do not accept an assignment not in accordance with FIFO.

Airhoss 01-02-2014 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by socalflyboy (Post 1551189)
Maybe FIFO issue?

Could be but how the he!! can you tell as the FIFO is completely messed up??

pilotgolfer 01-02-2014 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by voodiloquist (Post 1551231)
Call then NOW. They tried to hose me with a 0200SC when there should have been 8 dudes before me. I called them, they fixed it, SC gone. Do not accept an assignment not in accordance with FIFO.


Good luck getting through. I was on hold 30 minutes before my battery died. Tried again later and nobody answered for the 45 minutes I sat watching the Price is Right.

Red97Vette 01-03-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1551256)
Good luck getting through. I was on hold 30 minutes before my battery died. Tried again later and nobody answered for the 45 minutes I sat watching the Price is Right.

same thing happened to me

Airhoss 01-03-2014 06:47 AM

Could you imagine what it's like to be working the crew desk right now? This crud got dumped on them from above as well..


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