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Benwarren 01-08-2014 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1554331)
Like I said Snarge - it's all they know. And they had their perfect storm when they elected JP to represent them - shocking! But wait, we had our perfect storm when Ferg was representing us(Before my time but I heard all about it). We learned, they (CAL) need to learn and become comfortable with the way we enforce our contract. It's all about respect and Jeffie will choke when he respects us but he WiLL respect us. Wear your ALPA Pins Proudly!

ALPA pin is still in the trash, where it will remain.

Dicecal 01-08-2014 02:09 AM

What's up with the hats these days, are they optional or required to wear?

Snarge 01-08-2014 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by Really (Post 1554364)
Krudawg and Snarge, first you say don't throw grenade's and then you launch a couple!! :confused: We DO KNOW the difference!! That's why we don't want to act like YOU two!! ( I already have 3 teenager's at home I don't need 100's more at work!!) Just look at your screen names "Krudawg and Snarge" they just sound old and crusty!! I think what most CAL guys (ME) have a problem with is not enforcing the contract it's the belief that if ALL problems were majicaly solved with our operation and contract, guys like you would complain that there wasn't anything to complain about!! :eek: I GET IT, you have a lot of pride for the old UAL just like I have pride for the old CAL, I don't need help or a history lesson!! They are both gone, get over it!! You don't demand respect you earn IT!

Thanks for the reply...

The teenager was the old man who rage ranted for four days after ISL... that was a brutal trip... but we got through it...

Define 'pride for the old CAL'. I need to know what that is... understanding goes along way....

BenWarren stated above, ALPA pin is in the trash... As a CAL guy what do you do about that? Indifference?

CousinEddie 01-08-2014 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Benwarren (Post 1554410)
ALPA pin is still in the trash, where it will remain.

ALPA will nevertheless keep lobbying hard in DC on your behalf to stack the deck in favor of you having a job here in the years ahead.

Snarge 01-08-2014 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Dicecal (Post 1554416)
What's up with the hats these days, are they optional or required to wear?

As explained in my original post... some critical thinking is required....

Hilltopper89 01-08-2014 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Dicecal (Post 1554416)
What's up with the hats these days, are they optional or required to wear?

I think policy is that it won't be required until 15 April, which really means 15 Oct since domestic summer trips don't require it. Many just don't have it yet. Mine was ordered in July and I have been told 3 weeks for delivery over the past 5 months. When I get it, I'll wear it.

APC225 01-08-2014 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Dicecal (Post 1554416)
What's up with the hats these days, are they optional or required to wear?

FOM requires it. Union says company won't enforce policy until everyone has a hat and they've solved the horns issue.

SpecialTracking 01-08-2014 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Hilltopper89 (Post 1554521)
I think policy is that it won't be required until 15 April, which really means 15 Oct since domestic summer trips don't require it. Many just don't have it yet. Mine was ordered in July and I have been told 3 weeks for delivery over the past 5 months. When I get it, I'll wear it.

Don't forget to button that jacket when in public view and you will "look real sharp."

SpecialTracking 01-08-2014 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1554529)
FOM requires it. Union says company won't enforce policy until everyone has a hat and they've solved the horns issue.

Not directed at you APC. But...

http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/04/nerocover1.jpg

Knotcher 01-08-2014 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1554303)
I keep reading here on APC about the UAL guys and our burn it down mentality. How we are pulling on the wrong end of the rope. How cynical we are HOWEVER.....

The worst, most incompetent, inefficient hubs I've ever flown out of in my career and three major airlines later are IAH and EWR.


Guess you never fly out of SFO or ORD :rolleyes:....

The absolute laziest, most incompetent group of workers in the system hands down...IAH and EWR are not even close


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