Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1620022)

Yes. I was refering to the L-UAL scabs. They cannot and do not wear an ALPA pin because they know they will be called out on it. On the CAL side all was forgiven, the way I understand it, when they re-certified (I didn't say forgotten, just forgiven).

But this is not a scab thread, this is a unity thread. There is no reason to walk around with a slick tie. It shows disunitiy and it ticks people off who are supposed to be on your team.

Originally Posted by El Gwopo (Post 1620098)

Now, what would the penalty be if they dared wear the ALPA pin? What does "called out" mean? Does it mean you guys give them a dirty look they won't soon forget?

Also, without a doubt, unity left the building a while ago. LCAL guys come on here, find out what you don't like, and do it. You think you are shaming or intimidating people but you are achieving the opposite effect. There is a HUGE unity problem here. Most guys who aren't wearing their pin are very young. I really don't see a solution. Do you?

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1620031)

Then wear it upside down to show your displeasure.

Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 1620146)

I wear it. For me, it's about unity with fellow, non-scab, pilots and not endorsing a union

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1620136)

In 17 years, I have seen one scab wearing the pin. He was on an American Airlines DC-10 jumpseat. He feared that the AA Captain would throw his arse off the jet without it. When we got to Chicago, he took it off before he was off the jetbridge. It goes well beyond dirty looks. Hard to explain. It goes back to how they were treated in the years after the strike, but trust me, they don't wear the pin.

It is not my intention to shame or intimidate anyone (other than line crossing scabs). The fact is, like it or not, we are on the same team. We are represented by ALPA, and we should all be unified. The road ahead demands it.

Sled

Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1620177)

If you saw this guy with a pin on did you call him out on it? Did you let the aa pilot know?

Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1620076)

The vacation bidding is the easiest to address:

If by "our normal bidding cycle" you mean the schedule that was in the previous L-CAL contract, than sorry it doesn't exist and isn't the "normal bidding cycle" now.

L-CAL pilots had the same opportunity to bid for their vacation as L-UAL pilots because we are all United pilots under one vacation bidding system. I was able to bid all my vacation under the current bidding cycle.

The vacation bidding process was a complete cluster and mess from the beginning. As a result it was rushed and "fixed" and reworked as the bidding process went along. That is ALL the company's fault and everyone was affected by it. I would agree that the rushed process caused bidding errors and a bit of confusion though.

Unity is what people make of it. I am looking forward. I have welcomed all pilots onto the flight. I have gone out of my way to help L-UAL pilots when they have asked me questions. I will not be part of pilots suing pilots either because an outcome wasn't something someone liked. I will not be a miserable person going forward and take it out on my fellow pilots. Unity takes work and effort. We have no one to blame but ourselves if we don't make the choice to move forward as one pilot group to make this airline succeed. Right now management is doing plenty on its own to mess things up; they certainly don't need our help in doing the same.

Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1620357)

No sir, but I should have. I was a half winger commuting to work to fly with said scab. He was an old broken down ex-Braniff weasel with less than a year to go. In hindsight, I should have exposed his sorry arse to the AA Captain, but I didn't. :(