Commuting JAX to EWR
#11
The commute is rough. We/I used to fly 737's on this route, but the EMB-170's took it over. We have some very senior commuters out of JAX that get the jumpseat. As in senior I mean 737 check airmen that were hired in late 1980's. Some of the times, they will drive to Orlando (MCO) to catch a flight out of there to get to EWR.
MCO is way easier to commute out of (I've been doing it for 8 years) because there are no RJ's on this route and we have Jetblue as a backup for a straight shot into EWR. On average a total of 12 flights a day between us and Jetblue. Just food for thought.
MCO is way easier to commute out of (I've been doing it for 8 years) because there are no RJ's on this route and we have Jetblue as a backup for a straight shot into EWR. On average a total of 12 flights a day between us and Jetblue. Just food for thought.
#12
The reality is going to be how much can you stand commuting to a base from an airport with RJ service. When one of those things cancel, the entire day and next day is ruined. You will most certainly be going up the day prior. At least JAX has mainline to other locations. You can two hop commute if needed. I used to live at an airport with only RJs. I told my wife, when we decide where we're going to live, the airport can't have RJ only service.
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FYI this is false. Just had an XJT guy in our jumpseat the other day. They just recieved an alert bulletin from their company within the last two weeks that changes the policy. Now the second jumpseat can be occupied by any FA and XJT pilots ONLY. It is very clear that effective immediately no OAL pilot may occupy this seat. It sux big time as a commuter but don't shoot the messenger.
Tell the L-UAL FAs to get on board and it'll be easier for everyone.
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
You're not technically prohibited from sitting in the aft FA seat. The bulletin only provides a guidance for the order. If you want the long story, this has more to do with L-UAL FAs refusing to let XJT FAs onto their jumpseats but at the same time demanding the XJT jumpseat. There was a ton of drama and now this is what it is. CAL pilots were always on the list but due to no official reciprocal agreement, they were removed.
Tell the L-UAL FAs to get on board and it'll be easier for everyone.
Tell the L-UAL FAs to get on board and it'll be easier for everyone.
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Just thought to add as it relates to the discussion...
I am an XJT CA and I will put just about any pilot on the aft jumpseat for whatever reason (W&B, jumpseat MELd, two guys trying to go, etc.) and most of our FAs are fine with it. I will usually give my FA some discretion when it comes to putting an FA on the aft jumpseat and it seems to be about 70/30 with them (in favor of granting the jumpseat). Just my way of avoiding a cat fight at FL370 where I can't watch!
That said, I can only think of one time where I overrode the working FA and put the jumpseating FA on an oversold flight (trying to get home for some emergency). Sadly, no catfight.
I am an XJT CA and I will put just about any pilot on the aft jumpseat for whatever reason (W&B, jumpseat MELd, two guys trying to go, etc.) and most of our FAs are fine with it. I will usually give my FA some discretion when it comes to putting an FA on the aft jumpseat and it seems to be about 70/30 with them (in favor of granting the jumpseat). Just my way of avoiding a cat fight at FL370 where I can't watch!

That said, I can only think of one time where I overrode the working FA and put the jumpseating FA on an oversold flight (trying to get home for some emergency). Sadly, no catfight.
#16
The reality is going to be how much can you stand commuting to a base from an airport with RJ service. When one of those things cancel, the entire day and next day is ruined. You will most certainly be going up the day prior. At least JAX has mainline to other locations. You can two hop commute if needed. I used to live at an airport with only RJs. I told my wife, when we decide where we're going to live, the airport can't have RJ only service. 

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You need a good deal with the ERJ boys and girls. To get it you have to give a good deal to the ERJ boys and girls!!
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