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Probe 07-22-2014 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1689483)
As with everything UAL I'll believe it when I see it. And even then I'll have a very cautious and careful view of it's validity.

Truly, words of wisdom.

Pkcola 07-23-2014 03:31 AM

Actually, the old UAL was very predictable until Gleen came along. Now with Jeff and his CAL cronies unpredictabl have become the norm. Not that there's a sinister plot, just that Jeff and his DA's don't know what they are doing. Look at what they did to CAL.

Airhoss 07-23-2014 05:03 AM

I talked to our LEC last night and I also talked to a flight manager. There are a couple letters coming out from ALPA and one from the company. Sounds like a good news/bad news scenario. The good news for us 17 and 18 year guys who got steam rolled on the ISL and are stuck as Jr. 76T F/Os that we are going to be displaced and we can hold captain everywhere.

That was your cake but don't you dare eat it! The bad news is you ain't going to hold captain for long in Denver. So congrats on getting back to the left seat and I hope you like commuting if you want to keep it. The plan is to displace then offer a vacancy bid then displace ETC. over the next two years. They are NOT planning on replacing airframes one for one in a Denver so you current Jr captains and by that I mean anybody with less than about 4,000 ish seniority. You'd better not get to comfortable. Looks like overall Denver is shrinking. Secondary bumps are forecast.

That's my info, we should have that verified by the end if this week or shortly after.

In true new UAL fashion they are going to make this as miserable for you as possible.

jsled 07-23-2014 06:42 AM

So basically....Bring on the bumps!!..... and enjoy the commute to Chicaaaago.

Airhoss 07-23-2014 08:07 AM


So basically....Bring on the bumps!!..... and enjoy the commute to Chicaaaago.
Figure that in true new UAL fashion a commute is now the norm. I reckon it's going to GTE tougher to get the jump seat out of Denver folks!

Shrek 07-23-2014 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1689820)
I talked to our LEC last night and I also talked to a flight manager. There are a couple letters coming out from ALPA and one from the company. Sounds like a good news/bad news scenario. The good news for us 17 and 18 year guys who got steam rolled on the ISL and are stuck as Jr. 76T F/Os that we are going to be displaced and we can hold captain everywhere.

That was your cake but don't you dare eat it! The bad news is you ain't going to hold captain for long in Denver. So congrats on getting back to the left seat and I hope you like commuting if you want to keep it. The plan is to displace then offer a vacancy bid then displace ETC. over the next two years. They are NOT planning on replacing airframes one for one in a Denver so you current Jr captains and by that I mean anybody with less than about 4,000 ish seniority. You'd better not get to comfortable. Looks like overall Denver is shrinking. Secondary bumps are forecast.

That's my info, we should have that verified by the end if this week or shortly after.

In true new UAL fashion they are going to make this as miserable for you as possible.

THAT sounds ugly.......maybe I can switch my commute from DEN - IAH to DEN-LAX on the Guppy ?

Probe 07-23-2014 12:34 PM

There might be fewer PS riders between DEN and LAX. Maybe more. DEN IAH seems to be more PS riders than working crew members.

NFLUALNFL 07-23-2014 01:17 PM

Don't forget the winter we just had in Chicago. One for the books I tell ya.. Feet of snow, down below -25 many many nights. Wow. Certainly not like INL or the U.P. but why would anyone want to commute to and fly out of this ?!?
Save yourselves STAY AWAY !!! AHHHHHHHHH!!

Airhoss 07-23-2014 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1690162)
There might be fewer PS riders between DEN and LAX. Maybe more. DEN IAH seems to be more PS riders than working crew members.

And half the schedule between DEN and LAX are RJ's now. PLUS no late night returns LAX to DEN it can be a major pain in the buttock sometimes. BTDT..

Chicago is definitely the place to go. No two ways about it. Stay away from LAX. ;)

CousinEddie 07-23-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1690289)
And half the schedule between DEN and LAX are RJ's now. PLUS no late night returns LAX to DEN it can be a major pain in the buttock sometimes. BTDT..

Chicago is definitely the place to go. No two ways about it. Stay away from LAX. ;)

When you head to ORD, you will likely find yourself spending quality time here when staying at the Sheraton 4 Points or Best Western.

Shoeless Joes Ale House & Grille | Sports Bar | Restaurant | Rosemont, IL

There is another joint by the Baymont (Travel Lodge now I think) on the other side of the field. Your wife wouldn't like it much though.


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