Go ugly early!!!

 

Golfer,

The union took the company's word (okay, PW and his BK negotiators) that the company would do all they could to save the pension if you give us BK1 contract. Nothing in writing, no snap back if the pension ended up terminated to counter the significant additional loss in total compensation (which was a foregone conclusion for anyone with common sense). Rolled over on many more things so the senior folks could have the A plan that was toast on day one.

Scared pilots took the bait. You can probably search the PBS website for Spraygen's commentary on the United BK to get better educated on the A plan demise and the fact it was done the day the company filed. All the company had to do was get "you" in the right mindset to accept it in the end game.

Frats,
Lee

 

Well the Navy guy actually earned those wings which make them infinitely more valuable than globe Wings, a.k.a. Dog**** wings

 

This is really off topic, but your forum doesn't welcome interlopers. I agree Nicolau got it wrong, rare but it happens. It is the reason the current thought is to use three arbitrators, previously that was considered redundant. Since the current arbitration scheme doesn't allow anyone to wiggle out, it looks like you guys are on the right track, good luck.

I took umbrage to your ALPA bashing. It doesn't matter what you call a union, ALPA, APA, USAPA etc., they all have the same dynamics. They are run foremost for the benefit of staff, the in house attorneys have limited skills and are afraid of upsetting the amateur politicians. The representatives who are elected are usually not the best and brightest, simply because the job is frustrating, time consuming and thankless. After losing $42M and $53M lawsuits it is fairly clear ALPA lacks national leadership, allowing the locals to run the train off the track. I don't see how a smaller in house union will do any better.
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When the pilot's started wearing bomber jackets with Skycap hats, it truly made the uniform's function as a marketing tool meaningless. As a second officer, who once was thrown off a trip for not wearing the hat in dispatch, I am a bit prejudice.

 

Right on! I too am one of the minority that thinks a hat is part of the uniform...it does present a more professional looking pilot to the public. That being said, I've got better things to do than be "hat police"...

 

The FOM states that the hat is optional. So this is moot. Some guys want everyone to wear a hat and other just want to follow the FOM. So the "hat police" want everyone to wear a hat even though the FOM says it is optional.

 

Not anymore...
The FOM used to have certain sections with differences between LUAL and LCAL
Not now.
FOM 1.80.1

 

Keep reading. It also states this under "hat" "Uniform hat must be worn whenever the uniform coat is worn". The hat is only required if you are wearing the coat. If you wear a "black leather jacket" you aren't wearing the coat. See "leather jacket". The hat is not mandatory at all times. Only when wearing the coat.

Nothing has changed.

 

I never wore my hat when in my USAF bag, why start now?

 

The hat makes us all look like a charter bus driver. Maybe thats what we all are, but, I dont think thats a good look.