Sorry to inform you Dave, there were changes made and presented at the OET. I guess you weren't listening.

The in and out 0 is new.
The CI standard is new.
The idea to spend time and discuss joint/crew flight plan meeting as best practice is new to many and officially sanctioned now by top.
The explanation of the new ground equipment plan is new
To a lot of pilots the ACF is new.
The standard fuel policy is new to many dispatchers and pilots.
The combination of both former pilot groups is a first.

Dave you just want to complain about what you have no control over.

This thread is about OET and it's ok to not like it but all that other stuff belongs on another thread.

Hey Greg Bockleman, consider this link. I don't base an investment or personal cockpit policy on something a Saudi prince says, but he seems pretty adamant...then again he hedges saying, "If supply stays where it is."

Good news for gas prices: Saudi prince says oil will 'never' cost $100 a barrel again | syracuse.com

Did he also say there would be no displacements?

Thanks for sharing this bit of info. I always wonder who the brain child of this strategy was.

My last DH to the islands left many blocked [empty] seats, many bags, and many full fare folks who were left behind to accommodate the 30,000 foot crossing, APU burning the whole way, crappy ride in the guppy. :mad:

Just wait for "APU On Demand" on the New Guppy. ;)

For those of us who have been here 15-30+ years, we have been hearing them tell us to save gas the whole time. We do. We have also been waiting for a gate in the penalty box, or 50 yards short due to no jetway driver, for the same number of years.

They want to apply process improvement to "us", but they don't do it to their own decision making and the repercussions from those same decisions.

At the end of the day we get to see the same movie every 5-8 years. I have most of the words memorized by now.

I hate to say it, but no, none of this is new. If you pay attention to FOM summary of changes, FM changes, and bulletins, all this stuff was already there, maybe recently, but there---or we used to do it long ago, and is now rediscovered.....what's old is new again.

Dave are you from the sUAL side?

If so you are what makes it rough for us other sUAL exs. You have to argue everything and be right. The truth is this class and the data is new to many and many don't peruse the change dates on the FOM like you do.

It, the class, is there to reinforce what has happened.
And for your info the standard CI began on the same date as the first OET class, the ACF has been in the FOM since the merger, but the other side didn't use it until SABRE, the standard fuel policy was not used until SABRE and even then it was not being used by most of the sCAL dispatchers until they attended this course.

Dude be a help and not a complainer.

Oh and Dave I've been at good old United for over three decades and very little is "new" to me and yet I found the class worth the five hours pay and a sandwich. It was a good way for both exs to consolidate as the new United.

Learn a new tune, if you can harmonize.

CAL wasn't the pioneer in using the 757 transatlantic. They just built it to a scale that hadn't been done before, due to the EWR hub and not having enough widebodies in their fleet. The used what the had available.

The European carriers were doing it years before CAL's first flight in 1995. American did JFK-MAN on a 757 in 1995 too.


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