OET class...Surprised.
01-16-2015, 05:40 AM
#111
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Sorry to inform you Dave, there were changes made and presented at the OET. I guess you weren't listening.
The in and out 0 is new.
The CI standard is new.
The idea to spend time and discuss joint/crew flight plan meeting as best practice is new to many and officially sanctioned now by top.
The explanation of the new ground equipment plan is new
To a lot of pilots the ACF is new.
The standard fuel policy is new to many dispatchers and pilots.
The combination of both former pilot groups is a first.
Dave you just want to complain about what you have no control over.
This thread is about OET and it's ok to not like it but all that other stuff belongs on another thread.
The in and out 0 is new.
The CI standard is new.
The idea to spend time and discuss joint/crew flight plan meeting as best practice is new to many and officially sanctioned now by top.
The explanation of the new ground equipment plan is new
To a lot of pilots the ACF is new.
The standard fuel policy is new to many dispatchers and pilots.
The combination of both former pilot groups is a first.
Dave you just want to complain about what you have no control over.
This thread is about OET and it's ok to not like it but all that other stuff belongs on another thread.
01-16-2015, 06:35 AM
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Hey Greg Bockleman, consider this link. I don't base an investment or personal cockpit policy on something a Saudi prince says, but he seems pretty adamant...then again he hedges saying, "If supply stays where it is."
Good news for gas prices: Saudi prince says oil will 'never' cost $100 a barrel again | syracuse.com
Good news for gas prices: Saudi prince says oil will 'never' cost $100 a barrel again | syracuse.com
01-16-2015, 08:03 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh
Hey Greg Bockleman, consider this link. I don't base an investment or personal cockpit policy on something a Saudi prince says, but he seems pretty adamant...then again he hedges saying, "If supply stays where it is."
Good news for gas prices: Saudi prince says oil will 'never' cost $100 a barrel again | syracuse.com
Good news for gas prices: Saudi prince says oil will 'never' cost $100 a barrel again | syracuse.com
01-16-2015, 09:05 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by Kilder
Continental was innovative in its use of its fleet (757 to Europe, 737 to Hawaii....)
My last DH to the islands left many blocked [empty] seats, many bags, and many full fare folks who were left behind to accommodate the 30,000 foot crossing, APU burning the whole way, crappy ride in the guppy.
01-16-2015, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck
My last DH to the islands left many blocked [empty] seats, many bags, and many full fare folks who were left behind to accommodate the 30,000 foot crossing, APU burning the whole way, crappy ride in the guppy.
01-16-2015, 09:32 PM
#116
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Originally Posted by ron kent
It doesn't matter what we do to save a few hundred lbs of fuel each flight. I would estimate that I burn an extra 500-700 lbs each flight waiting to get parked because the ramp is under manned...management solution? Lay off more rampers.
They want to apply process improvement to "us", but they don't do it to their own decision making and the repercussions from those same decisions.
At the end of the day we get to see the same movie every 5-8 years. I have most of the words memorized by now.
01-17-2015, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
Sorry to inform you Dave, there were changes made and presented at the OET. I guess you weren't listening.
The in and out 0 is new.
The CI standard is new.
The idea to spend time and discuss joint/crew flight plan meeting as best practice is new to many and officially sanctioned now by top.
The explanation of the new ground equipment plan is new
To a lot of pilots the ACF is new.
The standard fuel policy is new to many dispatchers and pilots.
The combination of both former pilot groups is a first.
Dave you just want to complain about what you have no control over.
This thread is about OET and it's ok to not like it but all that other stuff belongs on another thread.
The in and out 0 is new.
The CI standard is new.
The idea to spend time and discuss joint/crew flight plan meeting as best practice is new to many and officially sanctioned now by top.
The explanation of the new ground equipment plan is new
To a lot of pilots the ACF is new.
The standard fuel policy is new to many dispatchers and pilots.
The combination of both former pilot groups is a first.
Dave you just want to complain about what you have no control over.
This thread is about OET and it's ok to not like it but all that other stuff belongs on another thread.
01-17-2015, 08:59 AM
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Dave are you from the sUAL side?
If so you are what makes it rough for us other sUAL exs. You have to argue everything and be right. The truth is this class and the data is new to many and many don't peruse the change dates on the FOM like you do.
It, the class, is there to reinforce what has happened.
And for your info the standard CI began on the same date as the first OET class, the ACF has been in the FOM since the merger, but the other side didn't use it until SABRE, the standard fuel policy was not used until SABRE and even then it was not being used by most of the sCAL dispatchers until they attended this course.
Dude be a help and not a complainer.
If so you are what makes it rough for us other sUAL exs. You have to argue everything and be right. The truth is this class and the data is new to many and many don't peruse the change dates on the FOM like you do.
It, the class, is there to reinforce what has happened.
And for your info the standard CI began on the same date as the first OET class, the ACF has been in the FOM since the merger, but the other side didn't use it until SABRE, the standard fuel policy was not used until SABRE and even then it was not being used by most of the sCAL dispatchers until they attended this course.
Dude be a help and not a complainer.
01-17-2015, 09:02 AM
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Oh and Dave I've been at good old United for over three decades and very little is "new" to me and yet I found the class worth the five hours pay and a sandwich. It was a good way for both exs to consolidate as the new United.
Learn a new tune, if you can harmonize.
Learn a new tune, if you can harmonize.
01-17-2015, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Duck
Thanks for sharing this bit of info. I always wonder who the brain child of this strategy was.
My last DH to the islands left many blocked [empty] seats, many bags, and many full fare folks who were left behind to accommodate the 30,000 foot crossing, APU burning the whole way, crappy ride in the guppy.
My last DH to the islands left many blocked [empty] seats, many bags, and many full fare folks who were left behind to accommodate the 30,000 foot crossing, APU burning the whole way, crappy ride in the guppy.
The European carriers were doing it years before CAL's first flight in 1995. American did JFK-MAN on a 757 in 1995 too.
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