Originally Posted by LostInAsia
(Post 1774696)
I'm currently on the 76T in EWR and trying to get to IAH. In looking at the recent snapshot, there are around 20 IAH 76T FOs bidding to the 756 in IAH. Will the company back fill those resulting vacancies on the 76T in IAH in this bid or do they wait until a future bid?
I think this is how it works. Someone more familiar with the process may have a better understanding. |
With the BAT who knows what the company will do. They just forced 40 guys over to the 76T in IAH now they have 40 vacancies on the 756. Go figure.. Just bid it and see what happens. I was going to go to the 76T because I was more senior but now with the new vacancies I am going to stay put.
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Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 1774461)
Sepda,
Back up a bit. Without the pre merger collusion of UAL/CAL the guppy fleet would have never been parked. 104 airplanes. That's where the jobs were. That's why there were unemployed pilots. Connect the dots. |
Right.
Why would a global airline with a large fleet of WBs park 104 NB airframes literally overnight with ZERO plan for replacing them, other than another airlines planes?The big money comes from the big planes but ONLY when they're full. And please don't tell me because of RJs, because the numbers (before and after) simply don't support that position. Those hunks of crap were already flying, and flying full. UAL+CAL simply had too many narrow bodies and overlap. Plus, the Justice Department (Anti-trust) would have shot it down. All this, and especially at a time when we had record load factors and the fleet was largely paid for. I'm sorry that I took the bait. |
Originally Posted by steve0617
(Post 1774459)
Could you explain this? Wife is thinking of bidding the triple out of SFO. Want to know the gotchas other than potentially commuting before the bid closes later this week.
Being senior on a WB is a different story. |
Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 1774768)
Cal did not grow to take this flying. There was no collusion. Just old classics getting parked. Cal parked all the 300's and most of the 500's at the same time. This thinking is on par with the Cal guys saying that the arbs were paid off. Ridiculous, that is where the dots connect.
Sled |
Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 1774461)
Sepda,
Back up a bit. Without the pre merger collusion of UAL/CAL the guppy fleet would have never been parked. 104 airplanes. That's where the jobs were. That's why there were unemployed pilots. Connect the dots. |
Originally Posted by socalflyboy
(Post 1774926)
So, the Skywest cats flying your old guppy routes at a fourth of the cost does not figure into this equation??? Ual sold out their SCOPE for that big ol dollar contract 2K...I will never bow down to " we parked our guppies for the merger"... The guppies were parked for the high dollar contract, the sale of your scope...
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Originally Posted by socalflyboy
(Post 1774926)
So, the Skywest cats flying your old guppy routes at a fourth of the cost does not figure into this equation??? Ual sold out their SCOPE for that big ol dollar contract 2K...I will never bow down to " we parked our guppies for the merger"... The guppies were parked for the high dollar contract, the sale of your scope...
Second of all, this is what the GF means about the numbers not adding up..... From United's 10K filings: 31 DEC 2007....460 mainline/279 regionals 31 DEC 2008....409 mainline/280 regionals 31 DEC 2009....360 mainline/292 regionals United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Investor Relations So 13 RJs replaced 100 guppies?? C-mon Man? Really? Cal said no to the merger in April 2008, UAL had 460 Mainline AC. Cal said yes to the merger in May 2010, UAL had 360 mainline AC... And BOY those CAL guppies sure rolled into DEN, ORD, and LAX in a HURRY. But, no. It was all just a coincidence. :rolleyes: But like I said, it don't matter to me. Our furloughees didn't get stapled, so percentage wise, the SLI worked out great for me. |
Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 1775011)
Second of all, this is what the GF means about the numbers not adding up.....
From United's 10K filings: 31 DEC 2007....460 mainline/279 regionals 31 DEC 2008....409 mainline/280 regionals 31 DEC 2009....360 mainline/292 regionals United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Investor Relations So 13 RJs replaced 100 guppies?? C-mon Man? Really? Cal said no to the merger in April 2008, UAL had 460 Mainline AC. Cal said yes to the merger in May 2010, UAL had 360 mainline AC... And BOY those CAL guppies sure rolled into DEN, ORD, and LAX in a HURRY. But, no. It was all just a coincidence. |
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