Feb 17th Class
 

Got the call yesterday for the Feb 17 new hire class in Denver! I'm thrilled to be finally coming to United!

I was told 22 in class with 18 of those new hires. Assignments are all EWR with 10-756, 5-73, and 5-A320.

I'm 31 and will be bidding EWR 73 first. Not sure yet what my second choice will be.

Anyone else in this class?

At 31 I'll be shocked if you get a choice! let alone a second choice! welcome aboard and congrats it's great here for a young guy. I'll see you in EWR on the 756 and I'll by the beer over in Europe.

So when I go to class in late March or April at age 32 I should plan to be the 8 Ball or damn near most junior?

United dosen't use last four digits of your SSN to determine class
seniority anymore?

I recently heard they are possibly going in sequential order from interview date to fill classes. If you interviewed on Monday first week of Jan, then you would get into class prior to the guy who interviewed on Friday. Not sure if that is true or not. As far as seniority once your in class seniority goes by age.

Doubt it....they'll be a few in your class in their 20's I'd bet.

Congrats! When did you interview?

Good to know! From what I have read the 756 is getting filled up pretty good from Jan-Mar. Does anyone have any speculation as to when that fleet will be "staffed" with new hires and the demand turns back to 737/A320?

The 756 in EWR is a great assignment. It s the one assignment where you can break mpg and have a great QOL as a reserve.

If one commutes from out West AND you had a choice between the 756/Bus/737 what would be the best bet for QOL? Thanks!

Get the 737 or bus. You can always bid up aircraft later. Get the 756 and you are on it for 2 years.

Sfo 737 is going to new hires. And there are Unfilled vacancies.

Feb 17th Class
 

Just notified that I'm in the class. Looking forward to meeting everyone. I'm 40 and bidding 73

Lets start a list like so we know what our chances are...

I am looking forward to meeting everyone as well! I interviewed Dec 4th. I was told that I am definitely not the 8 ball when called by Sandra and given my class date. I am thinking I am actually going to bid for the 756 to allow me to get to DCA. The wife and I have been taking about moving to Virginia and it appears the 756 is fairly junior there.

Anyone else in this class? Its not really worth starting a list for 2 people.

Until it is combined with the 76T folks you're right it is jr.

I'm in the 17th class also. I'm 33 and planning to bid 76, Airbus, and 73 in that order. See you all then!

Yay 3!

1. supaflyguy, 40, 737
2. clrd2lnd19, 33, 756
3. Pro2nd, 31, 756

What was in the drop for the class this week? As advertised?

Shrek, that's not really true. I'm within a % point or two on both airplanes. The combined fleet will be similar numbers at the bottom.

yes, but it will be top heavy as the senior of the senior all the way to 85% will be holding everyone else down. More movement on the other planes may be another way of looking at it. Or, maybe about 3 years on reserve. It may not matter if you live in base and don't commute.

Good point...but I think the gentleman who originally asked the question said he wanted to move to IAD area. If location is the prime consideration, I'd say take the 756. He can always bid down in 2 years.

I also think there will be some movement in IAD coming soon. They will be growing the guppy base by 100+ crews, they have yet to backfill any of the 777 FO slots that bid off two months ago, and sparky is bound to rear its ugly head soon in DC. Hopefully that will happen after the fence goes down.

How far West? I got hired in Oct and bid A320 SFO before I finished Indoc. I also just got LAX in this last bid (where I live). Lots of movement out here.

The drop was as advertised. 10 756, 5 a320, 5 737. The 73 and Airbus went senior. Bottom 9 guys got the 756.

8 ball was 29, most senior was around 50. Lots of guys in the 31-43 range.

Of the new hires, 12 guys were regional, 5 mil, 1 corporate.
6 guys alone were Expressjet. 2 regoinal guys were FOs with about 8 years experience.

Lowest time guy was a mil kc135 guy with 4800 hours. Highest time guy had 15000 hours.

I hope the Airbus guys aren't commuters.

We're still hiring F/O's? Why?

Why does the 756 go so junior?

Probably base selection after class. Not many 756 base openings west of IAD so anyone wanting to be based on the west coast is looking at the 737 and A320.

Because Human Resources has too much influence in the process.

HR strikes again

We were told that we would be on reserve on the 756 for much longer than the 737 and a320 and that hiring on the 756 was basically done for that fleet at the end of March through at least the end of the year.

Bases and getting out west was a big factor for some.

Being able to make more money on the 73 and 320 was also a big factor.

The seat lock was what others, including myself would have preferred not to have.

This is all good info for those of us about to start. Thank you!

What's wrong with hiring F/O's?

Per the description, they have 8+ years of regional experience. Not exactly "unqualified" or "newbies" as you seem to suggest. Being a Captain doesn't automatically make one a better pilot or candidate.

DC

I was really hoping to get the 756 in April. I want EWR so getting out west is not for me. plus I like the longer flights. Ok thanks for the info.

Well you can always bid up if there are vacancies. No 2 year seat lock for bidding up, only down or lateral. There still may be some 756 spots in April, nothing is certain until its in the past in this business. If you got the 73, a lot of the ewr 73 flying is trans cons and Caribbean so you would still see a majority of longer flights. Not quite like the 756 but way better than regional flying. Good luck and see you in April!

So I was a CA for a total of 3 weeks before I was hired at United. And 2 entire months before I started class. Didn't even consolidate. So what does that make me? Qualified? or Unqualifed to swing your gear for the next 10 years?

The job we are hiring them for is to be an FO. Seems like they are more than qualified to be FOs.

If they stop hiring in the 756 in April they are going to be hurting bad. IAD 737 base ramp up is going to take a bunch and so will IAD 777.

Although I heard a rumor that they will be combining the 756/76T this summer, earlier than they planned. They would be slightly over staffed if they put EWR together

late in 2015 is the word around the school house for the combined fleet.

That would be great if iad took 756 ewr guys. I hope they keep hiring on the 756 for a long time. I need to get some seniority! Would be great to get towards the top of the reserves by the holidays and a line by second year pay! I'm not getting my hopes up though.

Good reasons. Shrinking fleet, chaos in the scheduling, no one knows if or when management will ever get their act together and decide what the fleet plan is--it changes often.

A bunch of really senior people on it will never move off unless they get a bump. Little to no movement--BAT fiasco, and bumps in certain domiciles.

And.....the pay isn't that different than the guppy. So why be stuck with reserve for a log time when you can have drastically better QOL quickly on the guppy? :rolleyes:

Go for QOL (base) and quickest senority progression IMO. For FOs, the 757, A320, and 737-8 and -9 all pay the same. A 80+ hour line is much better than forever reserve unless of course you live in base.