Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 1814244)
Couldn't agree more. The current state of UAL is worse than I ever seen. I am a 95 hire, and don't want to start over at another carrier. I am starting the process to go back to flying contracts. I don't think anybody has a great career expectation here, and I am putting my future where my mouth is.
I cannot effect change at UAL. I can only effect change in my life. |
Originally Posted by jetlink
(Post 1815173)
I'm sure during Tilton's time was much better!
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Or not.
Operationally we were much better then than now. From an IT standpoint, the comparison is laughable, likewise our FC service was superior then. Additionally, there are a ton of givebacks and concessionary allowances in the current contract which weren't in the last. Training took a massive steamer. And while I applaud the overall maintenance of the planes, the paperwork trail is now a joke. Dispatch often stinks. We are treated more like children now. So, I find your premise flawed and easily debunked. I only post this to offset the 'fog of innernets lore' lest the FNGs swallow it as gospel. I wish we could stop the internecine bickering and start focusing on repairing the next contract. Tilton was a hatchet man who was focused on two things, labor and consolidation. The actual airline operation was certainly no worse, and I submit was actually much better than it has been these days. |
Have to say I don't share the doom and gloom. I compare our numbers and operation to where we were one, two or three years ago. What DL and AA does is beyond what we can influence .
The real threat is the trio of sandbox airlines and their government subsidies... Level playing field indeed. The current silver lining is that our fuel bill will mask mediocre management.... |
At least you guys at mainline don't have to deal with the incompetence olympics in DEN that is Simplicity (pronounced Simplyschitty).
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Originally Posted by gofastmopar
(Post 1815379)
Have to say I don't share the doom and gloom. I compare our numbers and operation to where we were one, two or three years ago. What DL and AA does is beyond what we can influence .
The real threat is the trio of sandbox airlines and their government subsidies... Level playing field indeed. The current silver lining is that our fuel bill will mask mediocre management.... |
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